To get the eyes to show I was holding a Mini Mag light on them and holding it steady was a bitch. The problem was that the only exposure that worked was after the water and mug were getting cold. I would warm them and shoot again, but my timing or steadyness were off. I still have some Dry Ice left so maybe I can try again tomorrow. If it evaporates by then were the hell do you get dry ice? Magick Michael aka zhounder PS if vicky is only $50, I will take 2 please! But don't tell my wife. :-)~