Yes Snakey, and another on mine: Just a question... Why would not you continue to make images???? This gallery is made for that:) Thank you not to confuse everything. And this addresses all wich, stubborn and mindless, who do not want to understand anything. I do not speak and write English very well, but I hope that you understand. And yes...continue, of course! Oh...and yes, Hot20 is for the best artworks! And if you, all, you have the right to vote and put excellent, I have the right to tell what I think!!!!! And yours Snakey, just over mine: These are beautiful flowers coming from you VJ and however pissed people like sylvie may sound I will continue to vote for the art of love:O)) : What is the most offensive??????????????????

It did not occur to you in the spirit that the persons who voted for me in Hot20 made it to show their agreement with what I had written??? Yes Zhann, i agree, I will ignore it now, because I destroyed my gallery, but this will prevent me from having badly for those that deserve to be there and that it are not because of anybody who play a completely falsified game. And I shall continue to come to bring my support for all these excellent artists who amaze me for their talent, and in whom I shall be always faithful:) So, I wish you my best encouragements of creativity:) And please, put comments on those whom deserve them...:) For me, this debate is closed, I said all that I had to say.

It is really pity that I did not keep the IM of this person, you would have been able to notice that this person so sweet becomes a witch in its papers when she wants it. And I am quite small in front of her, in these cases there!!!

???...:):).....jalous??????:)).....oh what???????...sincerely, this is ridiculous.... It is because of people as you, who do not want to understand anything in anything, totally earthed up, who some leave and will never return in this gallery.

And I say what I want, I make what I want, and, if this is not convenient for you, and well, you don't worry about me and about what I write. (this is for whitesolardog)

whitesolardog, Maybe that, if you had read all the offensive IM which this person sent to me, you would understand better!!! And me, in this message, I was not offensive (as you are in your message), I played game, yours, that is to put pleasant messages in everybody to have the return of it! This is only a satyr, a mockery in front of your behavior which will make that a day, any more no check artist will come here.

mmm.. I don't undestand all you have put...Even with a translator, because, often, is needed a translator for the translator... lol You know, in my first post, I addressed especially the persons who made wrongly positive comments, it was not really, in fact, for this (so sweet) person who took them for her and at once sent me obnoxious messages by IM. And I repeat that, my message was not agressive and indelicate, it was just my opinion in front of this degradation that one can notice at present in this gallery. Never I was offensive or offensice, contrary to all these messages which I received in return, and on behalf of this person, and on behalf of other. Fortunately, I have to say that I received much more messages of sympathy than opposite... Well...Although it is it, I have already said everything above... so... I do not regret anything of what I made. If only it could become aware that there is a moment when it is necessary to stop saying anything. Because, if that continues, numerous good artists will leave Renderosity. There is who of it already left, leave or are going to leave. If it is that you want, and well... continue so... I didn't wanted to use tact, because there is enough of it to see this gallery degrading, I believe that it was necessary that it is said. Pfff....you know, sometimes, it is necessary to tell the true, before it is too late...

I agree, when you say that, to help somebody, the better comment is to say how to make to improve this image. But, but...put only comments as: Oh, this is fabulous, oh, you are a master, oh your artwork is so great, so artistic...then it isn't true, here I can't say that it is an help. Of course, this is kind from the persons who post that, I understand, but it is not as well as one is going to help the person. Well, that, I have already written it higher. And furthermore, here, in France, it is 3 hr in the morning lol! So, I wish you an excellent day and, I am going to close my eyes:) Sylvie.

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And, next to that, to see beautiful images, made well , mastered well, with only 4 or 5 comments, this under excuse that the artist does not put any comment or little on those of the others... there I do not agree. And that is why, and this engaged only me, I preferred to give officially the reasons of my departure and to delete all my gallery. I do not want to be any more in a gallery where only knowledge are a recognition of the practised art. Even when it is naughty..

Hummm.....Sincerely.......This image wasn't good....a very, very basic image, really...The work of somebody who begins, who is quite new in a program so, to see its image in Hot20!!!.....It is not necessary to exaggerate not??? It was a Bryce image, and I know very well this program. Attention, I have nothing against the beginners, it is normal that they can expose what they make, we were all beginners. But from there to see an image as this one in Hot20... and this only because this person has numerous friends not.... It is not necessary to forget that Hot20, especially at Renderosity who is the biggest world site of 3D, is the shop window of this world with all the other communities, and this is certainly not an exploitation.

Oh, and I clarify that..all these IM were anonymous...of course!

This image is deleted, so, I can't see my exact message and you will can not see it. But I said that I had nothing against this person who seemed to me to be very nice, but that her image didn't deserve a Hot20, that this way of proceeding lowered the level of the gallery (and there I addressed the persons who wrote so many laudatory comments)and that, if that continued so, the good artists would eventually left this gallery, the good comments not going towards them but towards those that had good friends. And that was enough now resources of numerous friends to see propelling in Hot20. I don't remember the exact terms, but it was about it, no more and no less So, tu see all these disproportionate comments, accompanied with offensive and aggressive IM, I find that it is a little bit strong!!

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?????!!!!!! An impolite comment because I wrote that I found excessive to see a commonplace image in Hot20 with 20 or 25 comments "excellent" while those of true good artists have it only 4 or 5???? In what was my message impolite??? Please, well read again it because I believe that you did not very well seize the sense of my papers. What I regret (and this is not for me because I always had very good comments), it is that, for several months, I noticed that was enough resources of good friends to be propelled to the rank of the best artists. Do you find it normal??? Next to that, you have very good images, realized by artists who put only very rarely comments, who meet themselves only with 4 or 5 comments, sometimes even criticisms on behalf of those that put "excellent" on inferior images. Then yes, I find that it is a pity, and that, in these conditions, art is not recognized any more as such, but in the fault of the relations which one can have. Please, if you want help somebody, make tutorials, give advices, but it is not by persuading him (her) that what it makes is excellent that you will help him (her). Indeed, why to make efforts because one says to me that I am excellent??? I believe that all, you did not absolutely understand what I wanted to express. On the other hand, I am anxious to indicate that this excellent person, so sweet, when one puts her comments which are not positive, sends back us very aggressive messages! While my initial message was not absolutely aggressive, I gave only my opinion. Now, if the possibility of commenting on images is made only to say " Wooow, it is beautiful, it is great, artistic, made magnificently ", say it and that only these comments are authorized, it was necessary to clarify it before. Where is freedom of expression in that case? Is it always necessary to put positifs comments and ever to say what does not go to the system???? My comment was no agressive and not tactless, and, in fact, did not even address this person. It addressed especially to the persons who put wrongly positive comments, this to point out to them that next to it, they abandoned those that deserved it really. I have myself a 2 and 3D community, with a forum, In which I make maximum to help the beginners.I spent there days and nights (and I continue to make iy) to bring all that a person who begins needs. I think very sincerely that it is like that that one helps somebody who needs advices, by acting. And certainly not by calling him (her) that what he makes is magnificent. And, please, take a look to the others images, even though these persons do not post you comments. And I repeat that this is not for me, because, each time, I had very good comments. How do you want that one takes a gallery seriously if all the good comments go only to the images of the beginners, while abandoning beautiful creations??? Please...Be just, honest and help really those that need it with true helps, and not with words which put to sleep. Sincerely. (excuse me for my bad English, I am French, and write in English is difficult for me. But I hope that you will understand that I wrote) SylvieB92.

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?????!!!!!! An impolite comment because I wrote that I found excessive to see a commonplace image in Hot20 with 20 or 25 comments "excellent" while those of true good artists have it only 4 or 5???? In what was my message impolite??? Please, well read again it because I believe that you did not very well seize the sense of my papers. What I regret (and this is not for me because I always had very good comments), it is that, for several months, I noticed that was enough resources of good friends to be propelled to the rank of the best artists. Do you find it normal??? Next to that, you have very good images, realized by artists who put only very rarely comments, who meet themselves only with 4 or 5 comments, sometimes even criticisms on behalf of those that put "excellent" on inferior images. Then yes, I find that it is a pity, and that, in these conditions, art is not recognized any more as such, but in the fault of the relations which one can have. Please, if you want help somebody, make tutorials, give advices, but it is not by persuading him (her) that what it makes is excellent that you will help him (her). Indeed, why to make efforts because one says to me that I am excellent??? I believe that all, you did not absolutely understand what I wanted to express. On the other hand, I am anxious to indicate that this excellent person, so sweet, when one puts her comments which are not positive, sends back us very aggressive messages! While my initial message was not absolutely aggressive, I gave only my opinion. Now, if the possibility of commenting on images is made only to say " Wooow, it is beautiful, it is great, artistic, made magnificently ", say it and that only these comments are authorized, it was necessary to clarify it before. Where is freedom of expression in that case? Is it always necessary to put positifs comments and ever to say what does not go to the system???? My comment was no agressive and not tactless, and, in fact, did not even address this person. It addressed especially to the persons who put wrongly positive comments, this to point out to them that next to it, they abandoned those that deserved it really. I have myself a 2 and 3D community, with a forum, In which I make maximum to help the beginners.I spent there days and nights (and I continue to make iy) to bring all that a person who begins needs. I think very sincerely that it is like that that one helps somebody who needs advices, by acting. And certainly not by calling him (her) that what he makes is magnificent. And, please, take a look to the others images, even though these persons do not post you comments. And I repeat that this is not for me, because, each time, I had very good comments. How do you want that one takes a gallery seriously if all the good comments go only to the images of the beginners, while abandoning beautiful creations??? Please...Be just, honest and help really those that need it with true helps, and not with words which put to sleep. Sincerely. (excuse me for my bad English, I am French, and write in English is difficult for me. But I hope that you will understand that I wrote) SylvieB92.

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Thank you Sandoppe, I apreciate a lot your message:):)