....and to beav.1@InsightBB.com??...pretty please? Beav

Mine was doing that too...I just went back to Netscape and I don't have the problem anymore....:)

Super image...I REALLY like it.

There were just some jester hats posted in the free stuff area I think...

Thanks for the discourse guys. I'll make one more observation.... Outside the artist community, as in sporting goods retailing where I am, we understand that on a new product you'll make your mark-up in the beginning, then after awhile...it gets cheap. On sale..whatever...in this case..I guess it gets free. You guys are right..pointless to argue about it. I'm sorry I contributed to this carrying on, other than to return to my original thought, which was instead of telling them they're thieves, tell them they can't download it, and why. The old saying here is that locks are for honest people, they don't keep thieves out. Thanks for listening to me, and I'll try to pick less controversial threads from now on 'till I know some of you. Oh...and there wasn't anything wrong with anything gothgurl said...:) Beav

BTW....about now, I don't know WHY I didn't just lurk quietly as usual....:)

When you said they'd have trouble with "not only their system" I took it to mean that other people they contacted might be affected who had nothing to do with it. If I misunderstood, sorry. It'd be good if you could put something in that keeps it from being used unless authorized...but until you're appointed warez sherriff(or lawyer..heehee) I still don't agree with doing anything that could damage anyone's system. Lots of people share them. I just think doing intentional damage is at least as bad an act as using an unauthorized file. And you gotta see that outside the circle of artists here that get the problem, the other 99% of the net would agree. Sounds like I mighta just misunderstood though...sorry...

No kidding, mangina... If you've encountered this searching for poser stuff..share the address...not to mention the file name...

Thanks Hiram.... well said. But the only reason I looked back at this thread was because I thought about it all evening, and I just had to come back and make a comment that I know is going to get me in trouble with the regular gang.... I read the comments on this thread clear through, and while I see everyone's point, and how satisfying in the short run it might seem...I think the implication that it might be ok or even admirable to put any kinda virus or war program out on the net so that people "receive big trouble with NOT ONLY their system" just sucks. Sorry...but I just think that kinda action is never justified...esspecially if some other unsuspecting third party might get hit.....not when they do it for kicks,...and not because someone beatcha outta 20 bucks. I know not everyone'll agree...because, hey...it's "them"..right?..so fire the flames...:) Beav

"warez mongers??...I think my comment about trying to educate and understand mighta gotten lost somewhere in the "we're-better-than-them" idignance.....

If I might make just a comment as a newbie learner who reads the group and profits from all your comments, I wouldn't know about Morpheus or the ten other progs like it, just like I wouldn't have known about Napster if it weren't for my 16 yr old installing them without asking.(don't get me started on THAT) As a background, I've bought stuff here, at Daz, at Bbay....but.... I too downloaded a couple of zip files(see..they aren't all exes)...just out of curiousity and was amazed. I knew I couldn't use them, 'cause then I couldn't it post here...:) But I've noticed that in the past whenever some new person comes in and asks "where can I download this-or-that", you all roll your eyes, get huffy, and generally denegrate the asker to the point of them flaming and leaving.... I can tell you that when I 1st started reading the old Poser newsgroup, I was surprised by the attitude of the users about staying with totally legally obtained bought-and-paid-for stuff. I mean, compared to the general internet population on such things(Napster being the biggest example), they were nearly anal about it....or so I thought until it was explained to me. Once I realized that it was adherence to the creed that insured that there'd be a constant flow of new and exciting things it made sense to me. I guess what I'm trying to say is that these kids, or new Poser users of any age, have been weened on this file-sharing, and rather than taking the most "we're better than you, you rotten thief" tone with 'em, your community might be better served by someone patiently explaining to them that warez aren't condoned if they wanna belong here, and why... Just a thought... Oh....and I read in another thread something about "locking" or "shutting down" any thread on this topic. It seems to me that doing that is just hiding the ol' head in the sand...and no way to confront it. I think educating new users is the only hope. You can flame me for an honest comment if you want, but I didn't mean to insult anyone.....:))))))))))) Beav

LOL... I just have to chuckle at this thread. On the one hand, along with the obligatory "if you don't like it don't click on it" speech we've all heard a couple thousand times, Carolly lights into Rex with the big lecture drippin' with inferences about not complaining about others' ways, variety, diversity, and tolerance. ....and then proceeds to straighten out his speech.... Sorry,...just too funny to let pass....heeheehee Beav, long time listener...first time caller

I'm one of those who finds art in the composition, so I marvel at the things you all are able to do here. And just hope someday to be able to half as well. But....... If you go to any of the 3d art chats, you soon see what a bad name Poser has with most 3ders. We don't see it here, because we're all sorta circlin' in the same pond.(Indiana talk) But outside this group, I was surprised how unrespected Poser and Poser users were...go figure.

"Wusamah, you are so handsome and beautiful..." Thanks for the great download.... People should recognize your "niceness" rather than griping like they're owed something. ...much appreciated...:)

I just tend to download the .zip, then save the thumbnail as the same file name. Then I can view the thumbnails in any thumbnailing program from ACDSee to XP. Also group them by type...Characters, Props, Poses, etc....