Thank you for all your input, it is very helpful. I didn't realize there was a trial version and will try it out before deciding on the $700.00 version.

Quote - What I'm trying to do is this ...

I have pattern generating software that you can use to design your own clothing patterns. I also have Marvelous Designer.

So I have a front, side, and back render of a figure that I want to create clothing for ... PhilC's solution will actually work, because the ultimate goal is to create Poser clothing. But I will need accurate body measurements in order to size the clothing pattern correctly before I bring it into Marvelous Designer.

Just something I have been experimenting with now and then and I'm picking it up again .

Hi, I have been looking at Marvelous Designer and wondering if you like the software. How is it for importing clothing objects into poser?

Thanks 
Kimberly

I found where my line of thinking was wrong.

Let me give you some background of where I am at. I have been using DAZ and carrara for a year or so now. Daz has gone totally Genesis crazy and deleted all their old tutors. I also had poser pro 2012 and after reading several tutors on poser, I decided to learn poser software. However I only been learning the Philc software, rigging and a few other features. I had not messed much with loading other clothing. On Daz the clothing is made to auto fit and I assumed Poser worked the same way. I didn't realize till I just now tested a Poser world shirts that I have to conform to with all clothing. 

God Bless you for getting me to understand this correct. Now I have the shirt made, I just have to make the textures and figure out how to package it up to offer on my web page. I can't thank you enough.

Quote - >>> What I am leading towards here is the conform to part of the shirt should stay with kids shirt so who ever used it won't have to conform to also, correct?

OH!!!! If I am understanding your question right, you are asking if there is a way to save the clothing so that it automatically conforms when you add it to a scene?  Am I understanding that right?

No ... the user has to conform a piece of clothing to a figure manually (most especially if there are multiple figures in a scene).  There are two ways to conform clothing. The quickest way is to drag and drop the clothing from the Library onto the figure you want to have wear it.

The second way (the old way) is to click on the clothing, select the Figure > Conform To command, and then select the figure that you want to wear the clothing.

So if this is the only issue that you now have (that you have to manually conform it to the figure), then no you aren't doing anything wrong, that's how it works. 8-)

 

So the main question now is ... after you conform it to the Kids again, does the shirt fit the figure properly, and follow the figure the way it should when you pose it?

That clear a lot up. I thought the conform was suppose to stay with the clothing.

Then what do I need to learn so the clothing I make fits the actor for the person who wants to use it without them having to conform the clothing? Or is that important?

Quote - OK ... then this is a puzzle.

Exactly, I used Philc software since I was having so much trouble with my own models made in carrara. Made the shirt, tried the rigging with both Philc software and using your video and printed instructions as well as foxlady tutors and forum posting. I do fine till I reach the saving part.   

Quote - >>> And while it fits perfectly, it will not moved with the kids 4 actor.

It should definitely move with the character if you followed all the steps to create the conformer. Before you do it again, there IS a possiblity that you didn't drop it over the character when you pulled it into the scene from the library.  So let's double-check that it is conformed.  Select the shirt, and choose Figure > Conform To. If it is in fact conformed, then it should show that it's conformed to The Kids 4.

If it's not conformed it will say "None."  So then you'll need to click the Down arrow and choose The Kids 4.

When I drag it over the kid 4 actor, it does conform to.  But when I save the conform to shirt, the conforming to k4 does not stay with the shirt. If the shirt was just for me then I could conform it each time but shouldn't the conform stay with the shirt so I can give it away on my web site with textures?

Here where I am going with this. I have used corel draw and adobe products since 1995 making free printables but no one wants free printables any longer since everyone can make their own so easier now. I am trying to learn how to make kids 4 and other cute actors clothing so I can offer it on my web site in replace of free printables and possibly to sell one day.

What I am leading towards here is the conform to part of the shirt should stay with kids shirt so who ever used it won't have to conform to also, correct?

Quote - This is another one of those topics where sometimes a really short video can help clarify. I just uploaded one, hope it might help.

Thank you for the video, I watched it and followed your steps. It all perfect till after I save after the conform to.

Quote - This is another one of those topics where sometimes a really short video can help clarify. I just uploaded one, hope it might help.

I did everything you said step by step.

Then I pick the shirt and it work perfectly. Then I pick the shirt >body click conform to and do the conform to kids 4. The shirt moves with the kids 4 actor. Then I saved the shirt to the figure library with a new name. Delete the shirt from kids 4 actor and drag and drop on the new shirt that has been conformed to kids 4 that I added to the library after conforming.  And while it fits perfectly, it will not moved with the kids 4 actor.

I have to doing something wrong.

Thank you very much, I'm going to print this out and work through it.

Quote - In what way will it not save correctly?

How/where are you saving it?

I saved it in the figure section of the library.

Poser Pro 2012 ContentRuntimeLibrariesCharacter3DK4

Should I be saving it to another folder?

Quote - I sounds like you just saved the static prop created by the grouping tool.

If your clothing figure does not quite fit the assigned figure but you are able to somehow edit its shape to fit you then need to proceed as follows.

Conform the shirt to the fully zeroed base figure.
File > Export > Wavefront OBJ (the shirt figure)
Select these export options:-
-- Weld body part seams
-- Include body part names in polygon groups

Save so as to overwrite the OBJ file that is currently being used by the shirt. (Suggest that you back up the original.

You can find out where the shirt OBJ file is by opening the shirt CR2 file in any text editor such as Notepad. The OBJ path will be in the line starting with "figureResFile"

Or you can save as a new file then edit the figureResFile lines in the CR2 file accordingly. Note that there will be two instances of the figureResFile line, you need to edit them both.

(I anticipate sending you a revised file later today.)

I did what you said with export and replace the object however when I open the shirt again while it fits the k4 figure, the shirt will not move with the k4 unless I go back and hit conform to.

I started over today from scratch and I can get the shirt to conform but it will not save correct even when do an export and over write the obj file.

Thoughts?

So to give this shirt away on my web page with morphs and textures included, it needs to be a CR2.  Am I understanding that correctly?

Quote - I sounds like you just saved the static prop created by the grouping tool.

If your clothing figure does not quite fit the assigned figure but you are able to somehow edit its shape to fit you then need to proceed as follows.

Conform the shirt to the fully zeroed base figure.
File > Export > Wavefront OBJ (the shirt figure)
Select these export options:-
-- Weld body part seams
-- Include body part names in polygon groups

Save so as to overwrite the OBJ file that is currently being used by the shirt. (Suggest that you back up the original.

You can find out where the shirt OBJ file is by opening the shirt CR2 file in any text editor such as Notepad. The OBJ path will be in the line starting with "figureResFile"

Or you can save as a new file then edit the figureResFile lines in the CR2 file accordingly. Note that there will be two instances of the figureResFile line, you need to edit them both.

(I anticipate sending you a revised file later today.)

Thanks for all your help.  That is fine on the revised file. I decided to play hookie today and try to really learn this last step and morphs myself. The cutting tool was the big thing of yours I wanted.

Also, should I go back in and delete the extra bones on the set up room?

I followed all the directions and it is very very close. I have a few holes in the shirt in the upper chest around the neck but that's it. Now what can I do to fix those?

Thanks

Update: I scaled the chest just a small bit and conformed again and it all worked great. Then I made a new prop in the grouping tool and added the shirt to the library figures. I closed it all out and the reloaded the K4 and shirt however the shirt fit but would not move with the Kids 4. Am I saving the shirt wrong?