Right now it seems to be still the old Poser 12 content that comes along with Poser 13 unless there is an error. Would be nice to see a listening of the updated content but as long the upgrade dates did not change I doubt that they been upgraded.  

tim posted at 1:40 PM Thu, 30 March 2023 - #4460018

@vopehov506 We have updated the Downloads page at https://www.posersoftware.com/downloads to allow content downloads for each supported version of Poser via web browser.  Thanks for the heads-up.

Content is still dated from 2020 - 2021 and is for  Poser 12

It just makes me remember the Lucky-Bags in the 70's as kids we just loved them and could not wait getting some little cash on the weekends to get one of these. They had a cone form ( Cone Paper bags ) full of surprises and candy ! 

This release of Poser 13 just gave me a happy backflash. Good marketing strategy, Improvements that you can't see as there for later upgrades, content that you will find out what they are after you purchase and open that Lucky Bag. Walking and talking Models that you will see once you made your investments. 

Well that sure is Funny and I am amusing my self big time, for sure ! I just hope not to loose more clients that use poser in the near future.

Well I am still totally exited

About the incoming Poser Drama

I usually make my final renders for promotion in 10 - 30 sec using Poser 11 at a size of 4000 + never liked the superfly engine, especially when it is for commercially used renders. Superfly would just slow down production no matter how fast it might be.

Guess I'll be waiting

FOR

Just like they said ( Files are getting smaller ) No wonder if Poser 11 - 13 share all the same content, saves you allot of redownloading of assets. I am not sure but it seems that the content of Poser 13 is exactly the same as the one from Poser 12. The read me file is also telling the same ... P13 download area have the same downloads as P12 

https://live.cdn.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/159005/ReadMe_1da2deb344e62bfca0d4160fc705e0a2.txt

Wonder where that new announced startup doll ended up ! searched everywhere but could not find any new Info

So better wait before running that Trial until they make it final, not to get a timeout before the good stuff gets built in. ( Still talking about LaFemme )

It also seems that all the Included content can only be accessed through the Poser interface. unless like mentioned it is still the same as in P12

If so, they might come up with a big " Surprise "

Getting you all exited making a good investment

Am I the only one that is missing the Action here, The excitement, No euphoria ? Where is that 

or are we just getting to old for it

AmbientShade posted at 3:51 PM Tue, 28 March 2023 - #4459809

vopehov506 posted at 2:59 PM Tue, 28 March 2023 - #4459807

Sorry if I give the Impression to rant, It just made me feel really bad after reading the Dreamland model thread !   

Just for perspective, that thread is over 4 years old (January 2019). 

Guess I'll take a break and see what will happen ....

To be honest ( Jokes aside ) my personal opinion would of been pushing poser a little into a direction where the market is growing, rather then separating it self even more. Would be a real nightmare if truespace starts to get more popular then poser again ( Don't you think )  I mean, these announced updates will sure not bring back creators, in contrary, they keep on leaving Poser. It is sure to appreciate what the team is willing to do for poser but if I read that artists like DreamlandModels are preparing to leave Poser support there is something going terribly wrong.

https://www.renderosity.com/forums/threads/2930350/movie-setscity-block-set-products-to-be-reworked-for-daz

I am not a great fan of Daz Studio and would prefer to see Poser grow again a little, also for my own sake!  The way all is leading now seems to be hopeless and often I think my self if I should start modeling for DS rather then for Poser. 

Renderosity is making the most profit on selling Products and the way it looks DS is the major income, I have no Idea if Renderosity could survive with just Poser, I sure doubt it. Would this new owner of poser concentrate a little more on the real marketing interests then it might have a chance to get popular again. Lets say that it might be after some little thoughts considering a cross-compatibility with DS, This might prevent loosing the last Creators, Removing this tracking call home activation system, as we know SM lost already allot of poser enthusiasts just due this system in the past, one should be able to learn about mistakes others have done and not making them worse. 

Poser creations are not shared on pirate sites anymore, probably most other poser creators experience the same atm, sure is a positive aspect, but considering that there are no sales how could this happen anyway, so there is no interest anymore along the whole road. 

I am not sure how you feel if you are a creator for Poser, personally I feel really bad about it and loosing all motivation that is left the way it is going right now. I hope that Poser Software will not only realize the issue when it will be to late, if it is not already. The few in here are sure not going to be the reason for Poser to survive in this market and Renderosity is probably one of the last marketplaces who offers new Poser models others took down there section or closed there sites, some still alive but stopped productions.

I believe that just little things would bring up poser back to live but sure not the way it is done atm. I feel sorry that I can't afford my self investing into these poser releases, not the way it is going atm.  Many friends I made in 3D that started with Poser left meanwhile either to DS, Blender, some even just quit. Most of them probably think that I am stuck in Poser not willing to invest my creativity into something more popular ( There probably right ) Might be a little lazy trying something else, or just tired. 

I just wonder, How great can poser become without enthusiastic creators. Mimic already was releases over a decade ago and these talking models were not the reason for popularity.

Sorry if I give the Impression to rant, It just made me feel really bad after reading the Dreamland model thread !   

You Welcome ... There are many useful feature with crosstalk in Poser, you can even enable a secondary figure that will control your doll when moving it so that it automatically will animate the doll movements quiet in a realistic way. for example if your doll is riding a bike by moving the handles the doll will fallow the movements in a natural way not letting it go, or moving the doll without loosing the grip. Same like a conformed outfit that controls the Doll morphs just that you use it on a tool to control the Doll movements. This allowing you either creating animations or complex poses between two or more interacting figures.

Not that they copy there movements in a conforming way but fallow them out of there own position ( A Mix between conforming and Parenting ) . Sort of gravity control is generated this way. A quiet easy setup in Poser, I even think that the basics was mentioned in a older poser handbook as a scene setup sample for Posette riding a Horse.

Here is a link with useful information for Morphs in clothing

Facts About Morphs

you might also find other helpful Information there 

On the bottom of the Facts you will find the needed information about crosstalk, saves me allot of time explaining it my self Note: There are also some other factors that can influence a behavior depending on how the creator wrote the script but basically it is always the same. Getting this little know how lets you control your outfits in many way's. 

In addition, the superconforming method has been used on most released quality outfits for V4 ( Built in crosstalk ) DS took this method over for there genesis and Poser meanwhile forgot about this feature. It just works because there are not that many outfit releases any longer due the lack of good creators so older sold models just have it built in.

Talking on how this was done, SM Poser received Steady upgrades from users that mostly were built into python scripts and applications, this allowed the creators to just change the feature in there outfits from normal conforming and superconforming with just a click . Sadly this is not possible anymore so if you pull out a superconforming outfit and you get bad results due the crosstalk you are forced doing this manually in the script.

Yes it is a tedious work and you need to know where to search, In a way it will help you getting to know why things do this, in the other it is difficult finding these as there are not many left that have the knowledge. The change of the python engine caused a fall back to learn again how things are done in the scripts ( Manually ), there is no way around, there is no more button that will do this for you. at least not since Poser 11.2 

Little correction: If you want to remove the crosstalk to individual morphs in the outfit then Name it from BODY to BODY:2 or 3 as your first loaded Doll will probably have already the BODY:1 assigned 

after this stepp you can reactivate the morph to fallow simply by checking the box in the body of the outfit called " Include morphs. This will reactivate the crosstalk that you turned off in the outfit script