I just received this email. See these people for what they truely are. Any warez info can be sent to me at my email.

Mr. Hankey is also known as "daviestof " on Renderosity and as "zx20" on the warez boards. These people should be banned from Renderosity as that they violate everything legal this community stands for. Not to mention, I am sure the vendor's in the marketplace don't appreciate these people being allowed to be members.

Mr Hankey is one of this group. He was mentioned by name by Brenda when we spoke. Laura also mentioned him. See, there he is. We have and can obtain more than enough screen caps & html logs from warez boards along with his archives of illegal models that he was putting out for public distribution.

I couldn't think of five more.

Yes, everyone should be worried. Very worried. It is very serious if the bandwidth reports are accurate. It just amazes me that you can tell people that you had a phone conversation with a thief and they still don't believe you. Why would I lie? I mean it's me. I'm not a bad guy. I truly beleive many people's sales here in the market place might be less than what they should be because of PoserWarez. There are alot of great products and people say things are slow. WHY? It's warez. Most of the Warez people are members here and try to quiet the loud ones like me. I mean, I always thought Laura was a nice person. Now she is trying to say I want to kill her baby. Just because I threatened to sue her. Isn't that crazy. In a way it scares me too, because then who knows what she will do or say. I mean, it's kinda hard to top that. She's actually accusing me of wanting her baby dead. Now there is someone with some ethical issues. This is why I have to be public about this. What if something happened to her baby now. See my point. Just so nutz. I miss the fun we all used to have. I remember when I used to make free stuff for the Prop's Guild, noone ever downloaded them. Now the $ stuff is like "Warez" steak. Weird. These people know us. We are not faceless to them. Why would they do this to ALL of us, not just me. I'll go looking for that book tomorrow: "The Politically Correct Way To STop An Internt Pirate" If anyone knows where I can read it let me know. Or Mabey this one: "How To Get Flamed ON-LIne:Ten Easy Steps" by Anton Kisiel 1) Post about Warez 2) Tell someone you don't like them 3) Pretend nothing scares you 4) Tell the truth (favorite game show) 5) Mention money at the PFO That last one is just a joke. Actually they all are. I think.

Well, I'm alittle calmer now. LOL "I'm so sad that people are mad at me. sigh. I think the Warez people have won for now. I give up. I was wrong. They have rights too and unless there is concrete proof provided to enveryone reading this I have no right to accuse them. They are people to and Warez is too big for one person to stop. And they might sue me so I should be careful. And I should be ashamed for my actions." LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. NOT. LOL. Go ahead sue me. please. Feel free. Go for it. Anytime. I'm home tomorrow. Please sue me. please. I would love to have my lawyers take ya apart in court. Don't let them win. Demand action. They want you to give up. They want to scare and intimmidate you but they will never dare set foot in court I assure you. The information regarding Brenda was posted by Laura when she created the download location. Brenda was then quick to give me Laura's info. They retted each other out. Laura did email me tonight offering to finally give me the rest of the info if I called her. When I did she started screaming. She tricked me into calling her. One point for Laura. My attorney has assured me that I am at no risk, but thankyou for the concern. My case against these two will be fairly easy, though slow I am sure. To everyone in the community vicimized by these two and the others: As you can see it is dangerous to try to stop these people. They will insult you and accuse you of anything to stop you from trying to expose them all. And their supported and "clients" will surge forward to tell you you are over reacting and being petty. These are choppy waters to be sure. People have asked me for major discounts and them publically attacked my products and me when I don't give in. The make up new usernames and post their disapproval to make themselves look like victims. They are very very crafty. I know so many of you and we have learned to make products together sharing info and ideas. But now we are no longer just members. We are now targets, prey for them. To them we are now "the establishment", "the man", whatever. They see themselves as Robinhood and wee are the greedy folk in the castles. And we are to be taught a lesson by them for daring to not share what they think is theirs by right. Everyone has shared a video game here(figuratively), a software disk there, so people feel guity or hestitant in postion disapproval about Warez. And many people don't want to hear about it. I think all the vendors of all stores need to band together to fight these people as a group. To Renderosity administrators: What is your official view on the large volume of your vendor's products being Warez'd. I contacted you about my textures being used in the store. You told me to resolve it myself. I have helped shut down a dozen site with you Vendor's merchandise?Have you told them how bad things are?

Marque, First of all the readme at Daz is not a warning. Nor does my product use magnets. It also perfectly fits Vicky. BTW: The academy awards were already given out. Mabey next year.

This is an advanced product that is confusing to some I think. rtamesis, email me your phone and I will call you and explain it. Marque, since you don't own the product and since you seem confused and misinformed on so many levels I will not be responding. This thread is very tacky.

I'm not afraid beacuse I will not bother with laywers. If someone screws with me and I find out who they are I will simply get on a plane or bus and knock on their front door with a baseball bat.

In the world of Poser Warez Last week: A British Forum was shut down and the webmaster was fired from his job with a server provider. 2 People had there sites shut down A man was fired from his job. I emailed the employers of two other people. Boy were they interested to read my email Oh yeah, the people caught can never buy in any store ever again. And that was just my week. lol. Now we are mobilized and have a network. We share information and work togother. The best tips come from the customers who have paid for the products and hate seeing others get them free. My attitude is if you take something from me I will take something from you: site, job, peace of mind, etc. Nothing comes without a price. Fair is fair. I think it is important for us to always be vocal about our community's adament disdain for Warez. It lets otherwise clueless people know that we will go after them, find them and win. The FBI may not have time, but I certainly do. lol. Anyone having problems or if you have info, just email me at antonk68@aol.com.

Thanks for the compliment. We have received lots of fan mail about the suit and textures. Recently Daz was shoing it off at a trade show from what I here. I think it is the future of Poser products. Thankks for your words.

I know claude, I meant that part playfully. :) Thanks for all your business by the way. Your english is excellent by the way. I never suspected you were not American. A whiner is a person who complains repeadedly about something that they cannot change. WarriorDL, If we lived in the same town I would suggest we go get sloshed. lol.

Hey guys, my email still works. :) Just use antonk68@aol.com I can only post so many hints and tips. My products are my art. If I can't have fun talking about those, why bother, right. I'll be back. I need a break I think. The online community is become to real. And I know you know what I mean. LOL. I think I want to start a Poser business guild. I have a lot of commercial experience and think the vendors need a resource for advice and each other.

CLAUDE! :) Slow down. The post had nothing to do with quality. Careful, please. Ohmigod. (deep breaths, deep breaths). Please, noone speculate. I'll be flipping burger by the end of the week. (calmer) Thankyou WarriorDL for your words. I appreciate the support and email from everyone. As I said I am not leaving the posts in a fit of anger. It just seems to be a conflict of interests. My whole Poser world now revolves arounf my products which seems out of place here. Just that simple. And completely in perspective. The same thing happened when I was at The PoserForumOnline. Selling stuff was tabbo to the members and never went over well. No biggie. I saw it coming. That said: Commercialism is the best thing that has ever happened to this community. Since the store craze began the quality of free downloads has jumped enormously over the past year. Just look at the free stuff from a year ago. There are now figures and products in a wide range available everywhere when once there was very little. Reseach into new types of Poser products have never been higher. And the customers benefit from the meshes, code, and textures that affect and enhance future free items. So enough already about how upset people are about the "commercialism" of the community. It advanced the community and it's products/downloads in one year more than the previous three combined. People who think commercialism has robbed them of their great free downloads often don't realize that the reason we never made these things before was because noone was going to put that much time into a freebie. That does make sense, right? I have been a commercial artist and sub-contractor in many fields for over ten years. What is happening should not be expected or accepted. I've seen it happen to others too, sadly. This is not nice. In other circles, these things simple are not common. Explaining it away as coming with the territory gives it permission to continue. And this isn't about people not being able to afford a product. Not at all. That is fine. I, myself, just got Victoria because I never wanted to spend the money. But this is different. This is about people being mean spirited behind the anonymity of a keyboard. I remember someone posted a picture of a product last week to see if there was commercial interest. The response was "You're kidding, right?" Now that was just cruel. Isn't that aweful. I felt so bad for the member that posted the image. How embarrasing that must have been. A private email would have been more appropriate. That is what I'm talking about. So I'm just going to wait until the store thing is mainstream and accepted and I'll start posting again. Why do it if it's not fun, right?

I'm not angry just tired. I will be starting up some new Poser related sites over the next few months. And I will frequent the galleries. I just won't be posting anymore. After three weeks of working on a project you can only read these so many times before posting threads are no longer fun. "Nice, but way to expensive...." "Look great but as long as you sell it there I won't be buying it" "That looks great, but I just hope you aren't going to sell it..." "I would never pay that much." Or having people talk about you in the third person for several threads in your own post knowing you are going to read what they said and hopefully learn some type of lesson. When I started in the forums, there were no transpammed anything, no photorealistic textures anywhere, & props that looked like they were made out of bubble gum. We didn't even have conforming clothes. Now this site alone has over 2000 free downloads. I got tired of deleting posts because someone turned it into a crusade against the evils of bbay, pricing, whatever. I even tried asking people to delete their posts to get the thread back on topic. But the worst ones always stood their ground ignoring my request. I just wonder if people ever stop to read what they are typing before they hit the enter key. This is all just an internet forum. What are people trying to prove. Anyway. Just reponding to the emails I got with a better explanation. :) Treat each other better, you'll have more fun. Anton