Odd I made a post in here yesterday regarding my final thoughts on the issue and it didnt show up. Im not going to type it all out again, but in that was a request to lock this, and I even IM'ed the admin who was on at the time, and I see that they got my IM yet it is still unlocked. Such is life. Now Ive got the vodka whos got the cranberry juice?!

When I first started this post it was about the overall harassment not just the asia/jillian texture debate, at the time i was under the impression that issue had been solved and it was just a small piece of the whole picture. But now it seems to have become the main event because it never was resolved due to an accidental deleteing of emails (which happens to everyone). No matter what is decided about the texture, I hope everyone remembers the lagit textures that where purchased that there is proof of purchase of. The way stefyz removed Bobbies login/pass to her site so she could not have access to her more detailed proof of purchase. The posts on Bobbies gallery accusing her of being a theif, SPAMing the same email over and over to Bobbie, IM'ing people who have nothing to do with this at the time, the fact that Bobbies entire web site was removed based on stefyz word alone. Keep this in mind before purchasing anything from stefyzz. As far as my feelings on the texture, I see good points on both sides. And not having been able to examin the textures themselves in photoshop myself I will leave that up to rosity to descide. But then there is another issue that apparently I was delusional about. I had assumed that Bobbie was trying to sell Jillian here not just on her own website. which is why I can understand why rosity would say that it is not their issue. However, Personaly I feel that any community should step in and stop harassment between its own members, expecialy when one of them seems to be a repeat offender, and not just turn their nose away and say sorry it didnt all happen here so its not our problem. Thats one of the biggest issues with People today they dont want to get involved when they should, and want to jump on in when they shouldent. They dont want to get involved when the situation can actually effect their own lives or cause any inconvience. So anyways, Now im just rambling. So I think Ill stop because ive stoped making sence to even myself. Now I will sit and wait for the outcome of this all. And as long as every thing is done fairly and justly (by that I dont mean it has to totaly come in bobbies favor) and explinations are given for what ever dicision is made I will be happy. However if some half assed excuse is given and someone gets away with murder, Ill be pretty pissed. With that, the sun is out and its time to start a new project. Have a good day. Windy

So then the question would be, If in fact Jillian derived from Asia, would she still be infringing upon stefyzz's copyright because I know if you take an image and change a certian % of it it is no longer considered the origional image but a new one and hence a new copyright. I dont know if that is in fact what happend but if it is Im curious to know. ok off to bed I go enough of this for one day

@WiNC wow thats good to know :)thanks for the info! Now I dont know how long this one will last because I even checked it the sponser is a porn site, I have asked umblefugly to remove the porn site as a sponcer so that we can continue to keep the image up but... who knows.... so here it is one more time Asia Vs Jillian

The biggest problem with this that everyone seems to forget, is that bobbie cant just go and file a normal lawsuit, she would need to take it to a international court (I believe) and If shes like most of us, she probably cant afford something like that.

Even if there where links on Bobbies site, which I dont know for sure if they where even there or not, because i have not seen them with my own eyes. That should be delt with sepratly from this. but yes it should be delt with. As far as this issue goes. Stefyz is falsly accusing Bobbie of theft of 2 of her products which Bobbie has a credit card statement for showing proof of purchase. (that would work in any fine retail store you would go to here in the states so why would that not work here at rosity for proof of purchase?). And accusing her of stealing Asia, which if you got to see the compairasion before it was deleted (which is another thing that pisses me off) you could see that they where vastly diffrent, the little flakes in the skin where not even the same pattern. And suddenly out of no ware this accusation about the webpage comes across, and because of that stefyz is going to get away with her behavoir?! Thats BS. The website thing needs to be investigated seprately from this issue. It has nothing to do with stefyz's harassment and should not be considered in this case. NOW I go watch my movie damn it.

Apparently there was some confusion when I asked bobbie about getting the textures back over to audre, as english is not her native language, and after I had posted my last remark, found out that she did indeed have a copy of the texture she made and was going to resend it to audre before I took off for a couple of hours. As far as this linking to back up cds I dont know anything about that, did not get a chance to ask bobbie about it, although I will at a later time. However it seems silly to me to offer back up cds for 50 bucks when you can get that shit free all over the web just by using kazaa. who knows. I will ask her about it when I talk to her next.

Ok I deleted my last post, some of you I know read it. I deleted it because I have since come to learn some more facts. 1. apparently the texture issue was never resolved, because based off of some IM's that audre sent Bobbie, it seems that audre deleted the emails that had the texture in it whith out ever looking at them. 2. about 2 weeks ago, her husband bought her a new computer and reformated the hardrive of the old one so he could have it for his own use. She did not save everything to her zip disk because a lot of the stuff that she had made herself was stored on her PERSONAL website, but it all was taken down and deleted by the people who HOST the webstie based off of the accusations made by stefyzz. So despite the fact that we have the two textures rendered side by side as an example, it looks like Bobbie is going to get hosed by rosity because she no longer has the actual textuer, thanks once again to stefyzz, WHO NEED I POINT OUT YET AGAIN, Has done this sort of shit before to other people, and gotten away with it. Now Im getting angry. In my previous post I had mentioned this being like a rape victim, being blamed for her own rape in a court of law simple because she wore a mini skirt and a halter top outside her own home. This is looking to be more like a Repeat Raper, getting off once again.

@Poppi last time I talked to Bobbie earlier today her website is still down.

Clint, thank you for your public appology, everyone in chat at the moment seems to be extreamly impressed :) It is very much appreciated. As far as the emails go, they are not trying to work something out, its a matter of stefyzz spaming bobbie25 with the same msg over and over again, however as I stated above I relize that that is not a rosity issue, But I really think it needs to be taken into consideration with the rest of the harassment that is happening here on rosity. Bobbie still cant get her website hosted becasue of stefy and this mess.

RE: Walkeress, I expect the admins to take into light the facts of the situation, the credit card reciepts, the harassing email, the fact that the items where not pronounced stolen until they the admins themselves agreed that her texture did not match the Asia texture. I expect them to be fair and impartial, and do what needs to be done. My biggest complaint about the admin right now is the insto removal of any thing that Bobbie25 is posting to the gallery all based on a cry of wolf from stefyzz with no hard eveidance provided from stefyzz, when there has been tons of evidance to the contrary from bobbie25 However I will not pass my final judgement on the admins unitl they say that they have done all that they can do, and I can see some sort of result or lack there of.

Stefyzz's Asia vrs Bobbie25's Jillian IM's Stefyzz sent to edriver: Message #1 Message #2 In correction: my statement about Bobbie25's texture being painted was false i was thinking of a diffrent texture. but even still, they are totaly diffrent. and my appologies for adding the extra f in above in stefyzz's nick. Windy aka the Blooddoll

Falls on the floor and begins to convluse, drool sliding down her chin

Having beta tested it I have to say it ROCKS! the textures for the planets are great great. Well worth the 10 bucks! RAWR! Windy

I use 98, I use to get that error often till I downloaded the 4.03 update, but now it only happens when I try and use a clothing pak that I dont have the base set for, or I have unziped a freebie incorrectly and there are folders where their should not be folders.