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Quote - The problem is that nobody clicks on a picture of a foot.
Can't agree with that. This is the second-most-viewed-ever pic in my gallery:
PLEASE do not just pick this one point and ignore everything else I said. :P I would have MUCH preferred to discuss the notion of a "Revealing Clothing" filter than have to argue over feet.
The statement was NOT meant as an absolute (I.E. it applies to everyone, results are always zero hits). It was meant as a general statement (I.E. post a work-safe picture of a face, get less hits than posting a non-work-safe picture of a pair of hooters).
I did, however, literally mean "a picture of a foot."
This is a picture of a foot, from my gallery thumbs:
That image doesn't have enough ratings yet to show it's stars. And, like most of the images I post where I attempt to be "work safe", that image will likely take a week or two before it finally gets four ratings. Some have taken months before they got four ratings. Some simply never get four ratings, period. Not enough clicks.
What you showed, however, is not a picture of a foot. It is a picture of a pair of bare legs, and is, for many people, NOT "work safe." Compare:
See the difference?
Work Safe = Not enough hits to get a rating.
Not Work Safe = Usually gets a rating in half an hour, less if it's actually somewhat revealing, and can get a rating in less than five minutes if actual breasts or buttocks of attractive females are shown.
Do I think that's good?
No, I think it SUCKS.
I'd MUCH rather not have to appeal to purient interests just to get four stinkin' ratings. But, here at Rendo, that's the only way to do it. There are literally tens of thousands of artists, and they post constantly - usually no less than one image a minute and up to five images a minute, and more on weekends when the kiddies aren't in school. Any image I post has half an hour to get a rating, or it drops off the first page and ceases to exist. Hence, since none of my images have particularly tittilating thumbs, most simply don't have ratings.
Nobody clicks on a picture of a foot.
Thread: Another funny thread about nudity | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - All Renderosity is asking us to do is to make a tasteful thumbnail that doesn't have "in your face" boobs, butts and genitals.
Good idea.
However, in my opinion, defining a thong as nude is a bad idea, as it does not jibe with real life.
A smarter solution would have been to come up with a new category - "Revealing Clothing." Then allow people to filter revealing or tittilating images they do not want to see. A thumbnail of a thong-clad woman's butt could then be filtered as being "revealing."
Not that I expect anyone in charge of Rendo will listen to this suggestion, but I really feel the essential problem is you are dividing the world into two categories: Nude and Not Nude. And the simple fact is that, like much of reality, things are not just black and white. A thong is not nude. But you don't go to church wearing one, either.
Quote - Why is it so hard to crop a tasteful portion of your image that is 200 x 200 pixels and simply upload that when you upload your nude image?
I do. I usually crop a foot or something non-sexual. The problem is that nobody clicks on a picture of a foot.
Quote - What is so wrong with Renderosity trying to make arriving at the gallery pages a pleasant experience for everyone?
What's wrong is the effort is doomed from the start.
Your guidelines, though seeming sensible to you, are still outrageous by the standards of many cultures - such as most Arab cultures, where seeing pretty much any part of the female body is a sin. Women there don't wear full-body veils in the blazing sun because they enjoy heat-stroke. Other cultures also have limitations on what is considered "appropriate" for public viewing.
The only way you are going to come up with a set of guidelines that will make everyone happy is if you limit thumbnails and gallery images to pictures of hands and eyes only - but even then, you'll have to have rules about what those hands can be shown touching, as some cultures in the world have very strict rules about what you can touch and what you cannot.
Again: What's wrong is that the effort is doomed from the start. What you consider reasonable is not reasonable to all cultures in the world. You cannot please everyone.
Quote - All revolting is going to do is shoot yourselves in the foot. One day Renderosity is going to get so sick of dealing with these types of issues and the revoltes that happen when they try and make a change to better the website and make it appear more professional and tasteful, that they may one day decide to stop allowing nudes in the gallery period! When something becomes too much of a headache to deal with, usually the final solution is to get rid of the problem.
In essence, you are saying "Hey, if you guys don't stop complaining, Renderosity will just punish you by banning all forms of nudity in the galleries!"
Somehow, I do not think that will happen. I think if they took that step, they may as well just close the site, because they are going to lose the vast majority of the artist community.
Of course, considering that a thong is now considered "nude" here, I suppose you may be right, that's quite possible.
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The above is my own personal opinion and not a statement on behalf of Renderosity.**
The above replies are also my own personal opinion, and I am well aware that nobody in charge of Renderosity nor anyone in the community gives a damn what I think. ;)
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Thread: Another funny thread about nudity | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL