CHK2033 posted at 9:08PM Tue, 05 May 2020 - #4388263

JohnDoe641 posted at 4:07PM Tue, 05 May 2020 - #4388258

ssgbryan posted at 3:12PM Tue, 05 May 2020 - #4388087

3d art is a computer intensive hobby. You won't be able to do it on a potato. If you can't afford a $400 dollar computer, 3d art isn't for you. That is just how it is.

Go to ebay - 8 core/16 thread workstations can be had for under $400. You can do a lot with these.

BTW, if you tell us what you are working with today, we can give you an upgrade path.

Exactly this. You can't expect software that's being worked on in 2020 to be kind to hardware that's several years old, and by the description in your post it's probably much older than that. Things move on, software/figures/features improve thus requiring more power to take advantage of said improvements. Stagnation is death for any program that won't keep up with the industry, especially 3d.

I'm also curious as to why you mention that you "bought" Studio. Studio is and always has been free. I think you're somehow confusing Daz Studio and Poser.

Once upon a time they charged for it.

They charged for the "Pro" version at one point, but never the base software from what I remember all those years ago.

ssgbryan posted at 3:12PM Tue, 05 May 2020 - #4388087

3d art is a computer intensive hobby. You won't be able to do it on a potato. If you can't afford a $400 dollar computer, 3d art isn't for you. That is just how it is.

Go to ebay - 8 core/16 thread workstations can be had for under $400. You can do a lot with these.

BTW, if you tell us what you are working with today, we can give you an upgrade path.

Exactly this. You can't expect software that's being worked on in 2020 to be kind to hardware that's several years old, and by the description in your post it's probably much older than that. Things move on, software/figures/features improve thus requiring more power to take advantage of said improvements. Stagnation is death for any program that won't keep up with the industry, especially 3d.

I'm also curious as to why you mention that you "bought" Studio. Studio is and always has been free. I think you're somehow confusing Daz Studio and Poser.

EClark1894 posted at 5:17PM Thu, 19 March 2020 - #4384009

JohnDoe641 posted at 3:10PM Thu, 19 March 2020 - #4384005

EClark1894 posted at 1:08PM Thu, 19 March 2020 - #4383993

I hope Bondware will put out tech specs for at least a minimal machine to run Poser 11.3. I do need to get a new PC, but I'm not that tech savvy with GPUs or Windows PCs. I need some guidance to know what to buy, but I don't have a lot of money.

It's so weird that people think that this update changes some requirements for Poser, it doesn't. It's just adding support for Touring so RTX cards can work in SuperFly.

It's so weird that people don't think I know what I'm talking about. My current machine is a PC laptop. It doesn't have a GPU. I use my CPU. At the same time I also use this laptop for modeling in Blender. However, I can't use Blender 2.8 as my machine is too old. I also moved to this laptop from my Mac. Not because I didn't like my Mac, but it was also too old to run Poser 11.

I need to get another computer, but when I do, it has to be able to run Poser 12, at least. So I need to know the technical specs for any machine I buy to make sure it is powerful enough to run both programs. Yes, I could just throw enough money at it and buy the best machine out there, but as I mentioned, I'm on a budget, so any machine I buy is going to be a used or refurbished one. So far, all I know is that I need to avoid an Integrated graphics chip, and to try and buy one with a GPU card.

But so far, reading these blurbs describing them is trying to decipher code, which for me it is. Like this one:

DELL Desktop Computer OptiPlex 9010 Intel Core i7 3rd Gen 3770 (3.40 GHz) 4 GB DDR3 250 GB HDD Intel HD Graphics 4000 Windows 10 Pro Multi-Language, English / Spanish

So far, all I know is that it's a Dell Desktop with 250 Gigs of drive space and using Windows 10. 4 gigs of RAM???

Both Infinity and jartz sound like they think the update somehow breaks compatibility with hardware and your post sounded very similar so I generalize that you had the same concern.

EClark1894 posted at 1:08PM Thu, 19 March 2020 - #4383993

I hope Bondware will put out tech specs for at least a minimal machine to run Poser 11.3. I do need to get a new PC, but I'm not that tech savvy with GPUs or Windows PCs. I need some guidance to know what to buy, but I don't have a lot of money.

It's so weird that people think that this update changes some requirements for Poser, it doesn't. It's just adding support for Touring so RTX cards can work in SuperFly.

Wooo! This update is looking awesome!

1. SuperFly
2. Cloth room
3. Python scripted items like EZSkin/EZDome/Camera Panel Plus/Scene Toy (CPP/ST are defaulted to start with Poser)
4. Direct Manipulation Tool
5. Material room (still don't understand jack about it but that's what the undo button is for)
6. Morph Brush

ghostship2 posted at 6:43PM Fri, 13 March 2020 - #4383469

is a 2060 Super going to be faster than 2 1070's?

JohnDoe641 posted at 2:03PM Fri, 13 March 2020 - #4383459

If you're going the ebay route you definitely need to watch out for scammy and low reviewed sellers. Keep an eye out for the very high trafficked and highly respected sellers, you're going to be much more safe buying from those reputable accounts. It won't be 100% because a used card is always a gamble, with or without the warranty.

Also, carefully read the descriptions for 1070's that were used for mining and see if they say that they were undervolted or not.

I see that you're going from a 970/980 combo, honestly if you were thinking of spending up to 200 or 250 for each card, that's already 400/500 for two and I'd suggest you just get a 2060 Super and set it as a dedicated render card. It's going to render faster than a 1080, has 8GB of ram and with Poser now finally supporting RTX it's going to render a lot faster than a 1070. But if you can find good 1070's for under 200 from someone reliable, I'd say that's an ok deal if you don't want RTX.

If this older chart data is accurate and if Poser's updated support is good for OptiX, then yes a single 2060 Super could potentially be faster than two 1070s using the new backend. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=blender-281-optix&num=3

I looked for more up to date charts but I must be cursed today because I couldn't find any on google that were recent.

If you're going the ebay route you definitely need to watch out for scammy and low reviewed sellers. Keep an eye out for the very high trafficked and highly respected sellers, you're going to be much more safe buying from those reputable accounts. It won't be 100% because a used card is always a gamble, with or without the warranty.

Also, carefully read the descriptions for 1070's that were used for mining and see if they say that they were undervolted or not.

I see that you're going from a 970/980 combo, honestly if you were thinking of spending up to 200 or 250 for each card, that's already 400/500 for two and I'd suggest you just get a 2060 Super and set it as a dedicated render card. It's going to render faster than a 1080, has 8GB of ram and with Poser now finally supporting RTX it's going to render a lot faster than a 1070. But if you can find good 1070's for under 200 from someone reliable, I'd say that's an ok deal if you don't want RTX.

7, 8.

I use PE 90% of the time simply because the default shape is very naturally average (which is the type of style I prefer) and I don't have to do much to her because she already looks like the every day person. I use LF for certain things, close up face shots but tend to shy away from body shots because LF's body type isn't average and I have to do a lot to Un-LaFemme, LaFemme.

adp001 posted at 4:44PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382443

JohnDoe641 posted at 2:53PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382436

I have the base and if I flip the base I have a top, so all I need is the glass!

http://adp.spdns.org/GlasTube.zip

It has a morph to adjust the glas-thickness.

That was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

I have a prop request if you don't mind.

I just need a hollowed out high res tube with an open top and bottom. I'd like it to have a smaaaalllllll amount of thickness from the outside to the inner hollow part. The plan is to apply a glass material to it and put it on a base I have to make it look like one of those glass containers that collectors of pop/action/movie figures use.

Sort of like this except cylindrical:

And like this:

I have the base and if I flip the base I have a top, so all I need is the glass!

quietrob posted at 11:28AM Mon, 02 March 2020 - #4382318

The 970 is pretty comparable with my 580 (Which is no where in the class with your 1070. That thing is a monster) so I can get an idea of your speed. Isn't 200 pixels a lot of samples or am I just a little slow in knowledge when it comes to Superfly? You will not be trolling me if you say yes. I think it might be worth it. Your Urban Future set turned out most excellent.

Having Direct Samples not clamped makes renders veeeeeeeeeery noisy when there's lots of shadows involved but it allows the full range of light bounces to fill indoor scenes when I'm using Dome/HDRI lighting and many small mesh lights for indoor lighting. Even at 200 it can still be annoyingly riddled with large spots of noise but it's the only way to get the full amount of light/fill/bounce light from secondary sources. Otherwise the image is dim and most of the reflected and bounces light will simply not be there. With Direct Samples clamped I can get away with 50 samples or less and have a noise free image but I'm also losing most of my fill and bounce light, which looks completely wrong.

Sadly, Urban Future wasn't done with SF it was done with Studio using iray. I can't get my SF renders to look like I can in Studio which sucks because I'm a Poser guy at heart.

I haven't used FF since SF was introduced with PP11, but here's my sorta typical output settings for scenes with shiny and reflective surfaces or any OOT hair.

Scenes with plenty of lighting and minimum shadows I drop the pixel samples in half or more. If it's an indoor scene with tons of shadows I may even bump it another 200 or 400 samples because SF renders are so dirty.

I also typically just let the 970 render things, even though it's much slower than my 1070 I can still do other stuff with 0 slowdown with the 970 handling everything.

I am really glad that the moderation team is taking action. For the most part I've simply stepped away from here because the bickering and the invasion of extreme trolling/OT was ruining every thread I had interest in. Hopefully now things can settle down and we can get back to discussing our enjoyment of Poser.

I was wondering where she came from because I don't remember buying her. She looks like a great stylized figure and she bends really well on the included poses!