hey I'm on the front page on the "Tuesday, August 15, 2000" link.I have been here too long :)

Pieces here my wife is a Leo

I'm in nevada but connect thru a proxi on the east coast

wouldn't you know it now everything is fine again ;o)

I've been seeing this too. Just now half the thumbs in the max gallery show red x's same as my gallery. One hour it's fine another missing images.

I have to laugh when these guys try to appear self-righteous in defense of torture, execution, false imprisonment, degradation and who knows what other evil that civlized people have rejected. We just ain't buying their distorted logic. you even paying attention here ? I'm not even talking about the orginal topic I'm talking about the people that have no gallery or anything else to do with this site coming here to get on every thread to complain. Kind of like YOU ??? The original topic was settled long ago nice try

"You make it sound like they are doing everyone a favor by having this site. Granted it is nice to have this site to come to, but in the end we do pay for it- by market place purchases, by magazine sales, etc etc. " LOL Yes I do think they are doing everyone a favor. Me: I sell no products, I have no free stuff, I help in the forums if I can and have a gallery well over 50mb at no cost to me. I landed a job working on a game because of this site. Some people make money from this site selling stuff. Granted Renderosity gets a cut but how much would they make without Renderosity? Do I think they are doing me a favor YES. I made money because of this site and i didn't cost me a cent and I gave up no freedoms. The people that sell here have a contract. If they don't like the terms don't sign on. The store looks pretty full to me. A favor you ask? I would have to say YES. I just can't see it any other way. A business site you ask. They sell a product and make money sounds like one to me. Did you search all the forums to come up with the xfrog forum gem? I don't think your going to find anything I'll be ashamed of. But your welcome to look. Business/favor to the masses... yes both not too hard to swallow That's all from me on this thread. See you in the next.

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12401&Form.ShowMessage=1023675 kind of like how you weren't complaining here in this link right? good try. I paid for that software did you pay for this site. I acually talked the people at greenworks and worked it out. That's in that thread too. LOL ok you win have fun I'll just go back to making pictures. You guys can keep this site running.

Gosh, Lon, what a shame. We don't rush to embrace your stance, and your reply: "Well, these people don't have galleries and they don't participate in the other forums and, and, well, gosh darn it, I'm just right!" not saying I'm right or wrong. Just find it real funny the biggest group complaining in these forums don't have anything here but they do on other sites. They post their galleries and models other places and their complaints here. ah.. this is taking too much of my time.Time to move on

There was nothing typical in my response. I asked you a simple question. Nobody said you have to suck anything up and take it...I don't understand why you bothered with this thread if all you wanted to do was lambast the people that posted in it. What does that have to do with either of the discussion we've had here? Really Lon, it would be nice if you had something more to contribute than complaining about the people that were posting here. Because the people I'm complaining about,not you, are always complaining. There are a couple in this thread right here and if you look in previous threads you'll see the same names over and over. I feel that's a valid of point in this thread as posting a bunch a banners and steering the topic away from the original post I just thought I would complain about the complainers thus becoming a complainer then I can complain to myself about myself and create a never ending cycle of complaining Ok eat your dinner ;0) I'm getting hungry too

Lon Chaney: "Ahh yes, the typical response." Not me Questor said that.

Lon, did you stop by just to lambast everyone, or do you have something relevant to share? Nah, not really you all have fun. Questor Ahh yes, the typical response. Well, I guess that everybody should just suck it up then and let whatever happens happen. Never complain about anything just blindly accept it because it won't change anything. Funny thing that, history states things differently. The history of this site is one such example that people who do stand up and let themselves be heard instead of blindly accepting everything CAN change this site and the way it's run. Not often, but it happens. Seeing as you were "here before the stores" you'll have seen that happen. Or did you blink and miss it? When I get me some stock in this company then I'll worry about how it's run. As it is they let me have my gallery here for free and post to the forums all free of charge. Don't see how that give me any right to set the policy. If you feel different then not much I can say.

"How many business do you know set up a public forum and allow people to discuss what goes on in the business even if they don't set their policy by public forum? " Not many at all. Pretty damn decent of them. I fear if it's abused too much it will go the way of C&D

I believe this thread is in this forum. And a couple of the first people to take this off topic fit the description I just gave. A quick check of all the threads I can see on this forum kind of confirms my point. I said nothing about it getting out of hand. acually it's one of the more rational threads here. Just heard it all before. Won't change anything. They will run this site as they see fit because it it their site not ours.

I see the banners. I was here before the store. Iv'e seen them all. I don't really care for most. Will that hurt the person who's add it is. Just might in sales. That is his business decision and this sites to make not mine or yours. How many businesses do you know that set their policy by public forum ? Sure they might if there is a ground swell of opposition. I don't see that here. I see the same people causing all the ruckus. less than 10 people isn't a large amount