Okay, so I didn't get him yet and probably won't because I find I rarely use male figures - and if I do, I have M4, Dusk and L'Homme to choose from (with already to little clothing so in the end I most times end up with M4, because I have more content for him to choose from), but... I also was astonished about the lack of promotion. I mean, I don't know if something went on on social media, I rarely use them. But ... not even something on  the ReRo front page? Or was I just blind? But should it not just jump out at me? I mean, what's a promotion if I have to go and acitively look out for it?

I'm thinking of a simple bra- and - panty set, but a little embellished, like these:

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/136461/lacy-lingerie-for-la-femme

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/141353/top-drawer-for-la-femme

You could use the panty under very short skirts or under semi transparent dresses or suchlike, and the bra could also be used as top in some settings/costumes... belly dance or carnival, for example. Like I used the bra from the first set in this image:

https://www.renderosity.com/gallery/items/2930442/samba-moon

No, sounds perfect - if one just had the time, after all one has a job already. So I'm dependent on what others can create for poser. I can texture if need be and I can do decent poses but there is no way I can learn how to model or make promos and such an commit products to ReRo. I just don't have the time. But if a new collaboration for content creating would develope, that would be great.

Now, as for what I would like to see for poser.... I think what is missing is clothing (or props) that really stand out,  that have the certain Wow-factor. I allways read about the wishes for everyday clothing, and I'm sure it is good to have a selection of such things (although I use it rarely), but the possibilitys are limited. I mean, how many basic TShirts or jeans can one have?  What poser really needs are things that catch the eye... like the things Aery Soul used to do (if someone still remebers)

Or have a look at Arki's Store over at DAZ (she used to produce for poser, too, at one time...)

Just some examples:

https://www.daz3d.com/the-queen-of-thorns-bundle <- I coveted that one so much that I bought it all the same and brought it into poser, but the use is limited...

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-steelwitch-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81-female

https://www.daz3d.com/the-lady-of-mists-bundle

https://www.daz3d.com/dragon-empress-bundle

I would definetively purchase fantasy stuff like that, whereas with most things I see nowadays it's like: Oh, another little dress, meh... and then I'll pass it by. Especially when it's dynamic, because although I really often use dynamic cloth, it's whery easy to share dynamic things between figures.

What we definetively do not need in my eyes is the hundredumptenth slutware sexy/sassy/whatever barely there dress.

Astonishingly, there is no nice linghery set for LF2 until now, by the way.

Oh yes, I do that a lot. There are only few vendors where I know I can use shaders out of the box.

The idea with artistic images I like a lot, provided the artist agrees... a simple box next to content advisory and so on, "my work may be used by vendors as artistic reprensentation of their product" would do the trick. And it should be clearly stated what is a promo image by the vendor and what is a third party artistic render. In fact if I'm not sure wether to buy a product or not I also check the gallaries to see what others did with it and perhaps to see it in different light setups.

I also like the idea of standarts for promos... RDNA used to check the promos before releasing a product. Quite some times  I had to redo or alter mine, which was annoying, but in the end I think it helped me make better promos.

She sure looks good, but...

Victoria 3

Victoria 4

Dawn

Project Evolution

La Femme

La Femme 2

....

I'm not sure if I want to an can afford to equip yet another female poser figure :-/

Is there something that really makes her stand out compared to the others?

Time. My job is too time consuming. The content-creating was never more than a hobby for me, so now with limited time I rather concentrate on picture-making. But the topic of the thread is poser's future, so perhaps we move back to that.

I was not talking about my store, I gave up being a vendor years ago, but thank you for the advice all the same ;)

You can always take a stroll through my gallary and judge for yourself if I argue from an inexperienced user's place who doesn't know how to tweak things to her liking :)

Doesn't make untrue what I said... I suppose poser needs both, the experienced vendors and end users.

I hesitate to say it, but the problem in my eyes is not so much lack of support (at least, not only), but that often the offered content for LF/LF2 for example does look a bit outdated quality-wise. I have older gowns for V4 and V3 even with more detail than some things offered for the newer, more modern figures. I find little reason to purchase those, then.The trenchcoat set mentioned earlier is really a good example.

And even if the tghings might be good, the promos often don't show it. D|S promos often look much more sophisticated. An example:

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/165956/prae-gwendolyn-hair-for-g8g9-females

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/165957/prae-gwendolyn-hair-for-la-femme-2-and-dawn-2-poser

The same product, and I really think it's a cute hairstyle which I'm considering to purchase... but had I only the poser promos to go by I might pass it.

Or harem pants...

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/163215/sic-jeanne-harem-pants-for-g8x-f

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/163376/sic-jeanne-harem-pants-for-la-femme-2

I purchased the La Femme version because of the D|S promos... the poser promos, I'm sorry to say, look like images I might have done in my first poser days like15 years ago. I think it must be hard to make high qhality promos in two such different applications, but there are some light sets and such out there that would help a lot. And little things like nice poses that look natural.

If you're totally new to 3D and go by promos alone you'll certainly get the impression that D|S will make better pictures. So... if the products that are there were more sophisticated or better promoted it might help at least a little.

I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but that's been on my mind for some time now.

Afro, I definetively don't mean your things, those are a light at the end of poser tunnel.

Congratulations to the other winners :D Great work all around. Nemesis, I like your umbrella image very much, great photo.

And thank you!

Blaze

Kelpie

Kolibri

That looks sweet with the belt! What if the belt was higher, below the breasts, so there was an empire-like silhouette?

Is the Clothroom masterclass by Esha still available somewhere? That one really explains much about the clothroom from basic to advanced...