Quote - Actually beelzebub we generally have much more clement weather here than there, .. ...

Sorry took a while to revive my room mate when he saw the above statement. Had to stop the flow of blood where he hit his head on the corner of the desk when he went down:)

Well Bobby, we usually try to keep it a secret so as not to get an influx from less fortunate areas of the country (not pointing out any particular area of course:) My room mate comes from Winnipeg and constantly thanks me for picking him up when I was going through Manitoba on the way back from the "almighty" province of Ontario:)

We are sending you some good weather from Edmonton Bobbystahr cause we know how short your summers are there:)

Hey!! If we could only turn back time like they seem to be doing on this site we could actually make some money maybe on the stock market before the "recession" :)

BTW

Notice this at the top of the page

"**May 2010 Bryce Challenge - The Magic Hour

Entry Page is Up!**

Now that is a bit worrisome. And now my text just went green. Time to maybe stay away from here for a bit just in case it becomes catchy:)

Well, Prince, so Genoa and Lucca are now just family estates of the Buonapartes.
But I warn you, if you don't tell me that this means war, if you still try to
defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist—I really believe
he is Antichrist—I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer
my friend, no longer my 'faithful slave,' as you call yourself! But how do you
do? I see I have frightened you—sit down and tell me all the news."

And it continues for who knows how many books:0

By the time you get to the last one you forget what was in the first one.

:) No thanks:)

I agree completely with your comment Bryster. It is not the images but the comments that I believe need to be addressed. And I certainly wouldn't want anyone to be rude nor condescending towards people who are just beginning the programs as that is not required nor wanted. I remember years ago some of the people (a lot of whom are no longer around now) who using finesse and tact helped myself and others greatly and made us feel good about our efforts. That is what I would like to see once again as the more people become better at thier attempts the more people we will attract to using the programs. This in turn improves not only thier work but the community as a whole. We were once an exciting and vibrant community using Bryce and loved to share anything we knew with each other and a return to that type of atmosphere would be a very good thing.

BTW, I still have my sphere over water and I thought I was quite artistic at the time by putting mountains in it with rainbow colors:) I thought the reflections over the water were awesome and was proud my machine at the time rendered it in only 27 hours. (P2 266 with 64 megs ram. Fastest chip available on the planet at that time.:)

Quote - Yeah, I used to call them the Bad Boyz Club. They were amazing... and amazingly hilarious in a caustic sort of way. ;)

The good news about those who run for Most Popular in the galleries, is that they quickly become bored (got this sussed, what's next to conquer), and fade away.

Harrison2 put up some excellent tutorials in threads over at 3DC. I wonder if he still has any of them saved?

 

That would be nice if he does. A lot of good tutorials seem to have gone by the wayside as people left.

One thing I am proud of is that I have never been real popular all the way back to the old poserforums site:) Kind of masochistic I guess.

I have no problem with any of the above statements at all. In fact, I (being wishy washy:) agree with both sides of this topic to one degree or another(wishy- washy I know) but I do have a problem with someone who will for example knock down a pictures rating and then not have the courtesy to explain why they did so. Have they seen something that others have missed?? If so, point it out and then perhaps they will help that person to improve that aspect of thier next render. Honest ctiticism given properly in a true effort to help a person improve thier skills is better than no comment at all don't you agree?

I commented on this thread because many times I have felt that the gallery has become more of a social network gathering place than a place to test your skills and improve your skills. This can work only if people are honest in thier opinions on a persons work and tell them any reasons or what you think may help them in thier future endeavors.

As for the low prices of programs such as Bryce and Poser lets look at ones like Blender which is free and some of the amazing work done by some of the truly talented people now using that program. There will always be those who will excel in different graphic programs and those. like me, who just fuddle thier way through things usually with no idea half the time what they are doing.

Lets face it, most of us use these programs out of an innate desire or need to create something of our own and we realise we will never be a Boris Vallejo or come close to being what we who use Bryce call a "Bryce Master".

I think that what is being stated in Datadraws post is that self serving "I'm being nice to you, you be nice to me" comments are not really being honest with each other and serves no purpose in helping one improve. Here comes the "wishy- washy again:)" No offense to anyone who posts anywhere in the gallery or here intended.

Had to edit because I remember a lot of those people scanmead is talking about. And 3D Commune was a great place to learn from some truly great people. And it is true that some of those people left because they thought that way. I do miss some of the people who used to be here but they had thier reasons I guess:(

Yup. Have thought that myself at times. Seems to be a trend not to be critical of anything in case someone takes offense. To me, the point of being able to give Constructive Critisicm is to help a person improve thier work and to also improve the quality of the pictures posted in the gallery. This is what people need to improve thier skills and thier artistic talent (if they actually have some that is) and in turn it improves both the quality and credibility of both the artist and the program and the gallery.

As long as this trend continues and people are so involved in patting each other on the back and saying how good they are the Bryce gallery will always be considered rather 2cnd rate and amatuerish in scope and talent.

I love using Bryce and as it was the first graphic program I ever had I have lot of fondness for it. I remember how when I first started using it and the people who were here at the time gave me honest appraisals and criticisms on my attempts helped me a lot. I am by no means a great artist or a Bryce user but I attempt to do the best I can and have had my share of bad( and I mean bad) pictures I have posted in the galleries. Thank God I have learned not to post most of them anymore:)

There are some great Bryce users on this site who very rarely post thier work in the gallery any more and I wonder if the above is not part of the reason??

I am not out to offend anyone or to make people angry by what I have said here but more to hopefully make people think about what they are doing when they give high praise to pictures that quite honestly are a lot of times crude, amatuerish and a lot of times bad renders ( some not even anti-aliased) when in all honesty they should know better.

I know they say art is in the eye of the beholder but come on, good is good, bad is bad and crap is crap no matter how you describe. Also, common sense is common sense. Lets use some and lets improve the quality of our gallery.

Something I notice with the new release is that if you import an obj or 3ds and save it in your user models it seems to hang the program for up to 3 minutes. Of course I also notice that the model seems to load better i.e no more "missing object" message which was really aggravating:) Maybe its a fix??:)

Yup, told them a couple times at least. Think it may be a conflict when I add a certain model to the scene although the models all work well on thier own. 6 of one half a dozen of the other kind of problem I guess. I pm'd and offered them the scene (340 megs) if they want it along with the model that manages to crash it every time on a save.

fran;
yes I have although a lot of them are the out of memory ones no reasons given. :)

Well one thing I have discovered is that I am better at crashing 7 than I have ever been with all the previous versions. And I can't even blame my computer for the running out of memory messages and the missing object etc. stuff. Hell, it doesn't even come up with a crash message half the time anymore. And thats without using ibl or  any of the other things I was playing with yesterday :)

Well I  decided to try the ibl on a scene that without the ibl takes about 40 minutes (fairly complicated with a lot of larger models in it etc.) on an i7 with asus ultimate board and 6 gigs of ram. The estimated time in AA is 2 days, 5 hours ,58 minutes. Thats a real lot of time difference.  Plus when I tried to stop the render it just froze Bryce abd that was that. Will try different settings and see what happens.