I appreciate that it might not be the easiest thing to combine artistic and 'product display' elements in the promotional shots. To be honest, I think that both of you provide quite informative promo shots - Bluecho's "Bessie Beulah", in particular, combine's full body shots with insets showing specific detail (elbows, hands etc). (OT @ Bluecho - I love the look of Bessie and BE4Birkitta - do you have any plans for similar characters for V4?)

I'm a bit confused about the official space issue, though. There seems to be a big difference in the number of images shown by different vendors - some only have one on the main product page, followed by 2 or 3 'additional product images' at the bottom. Others, seem to show many more images on the main product page and use the additional product images section for detail which requires nudity (Danie and marforno are a great example of this - e.g. their DM's Nanette is exactly the kind of informative approach to promos that I'd like to see used more often).

My only point is really that potential customers need to be able to see what they're buying - if vendors (and renderosity!) are going to ask people to part with their cash, they really have to let people see the product first. This just strikes me as self evident.

Quote - -In fact, there's even one quite recent texture/character set that only includes shots of the second skin textures and not the main texture itself - it might well be a nice set, but there's simply no way to tell from the promos. -

Keep in mind that vendors have to apply certain rules while making the promos. An example that may apply to what you said above is an under age character package. Nudity cannot be shown anywhere in the promos unlike for adult character packages.:)

This ones's very definitely an adult character for V4.

In any case, even if full nudity is not an option, it's still possible to show close-ups of other aspects of the texture which can give a reasonable (if incomplete) idea of how good the product is (e.g. the various texture sets available at daz).

It's an interesting thread, but I have to say that I'm pretty certain that Poser 7's rendering idiosyncrasies aren't to blame for this...  the poor promo shot's I'm talking about make no attempt to show close-up detail, plus many people (even myself) have managed to get detailed renders out of the program...

I'm more inclined to agree with Soultaker - distance shots without detail (or with the detail covered by clothing/second skins etc) seem more suggestive of a poor product.

very cool - thanks!

Thanks for the replies!

LaVonne, the mermaid theme sounds interesting and different - although, personally, I'm not really involved with those kind of fantasy renders atm, so it might suit others more than me.

Fyrene, the "Call Me Ms" set looks very nice indeed, but I was wondering if you have any close-ups of the main (ie not second skin) textures available? It would be great to see some renders of specific details - eg hands, elbows, nipples, etc - that would really help with my buying decision. Also, I wasn't sure from the promos if there was a no-makeup option? Apologies for all the questions!

Thanks again :)

That would be good. I've tried messing about with wardrobe wizard, which produces good results for the basic fit. However, applying morphs to the coat (using Lyrra's excellent ' V4 fit' magnets) is a bit of a problem because of the 'skirt' (if that's the right term?) part of the coat.

Quote - Leaves out the rest of us that cannot afford to upgrade, like us Aussie that get ripped off on Software Pricing, you have to see the prices to believe it.

Poser software pricing was terrible in Europe too a little while back, but that changed with ef and content paradise. Now, as far as I know, content paradise's prices for Poser (full and upgrade) are consistent worldwide (at least, there's only one price in USD listed - 129.99 upgrade and 249.99 full  - the only additional cost for me was an EU sales tax). If you're being asked to pay more for any reason other than maybe an unfavourable exchange rate, that's just appalling.

looks great! I'd love to have the model, is it possible to get hold of it at the moment?

looks great - thanks!

You might be able to get something close to the dress you want by finding one that's generally the right shape and making a transmap for the texture (so that parts are made invisible). Alternatively, a combination of the V4 catsuit and a mini-skirt might work, again if you transmapped them.

Afraid that I don't have any ideas for the jacket and gloves... (although I think Serrge included a short jacket with his Chastity clothes set for V2 - it might have worked if converted to V4 with wardrobe wizard or similar)

That's really generous of you - thanks!!! :)

I'm afraid I don't have the first idea of how you would go about making it a single morph, though...

really lovely render! :)

(errr, do you think that you might release the character at some point? (I'd certainly be interested in buying if you put her up for sale!)

Well, I really like the morph as is - well done !!! :)

Quote - One option would be let a use type in "gothic", and have a checkbox for the categories they want to look in, such as characters, props, clothes, etc. That way, they can narrow down the results, but still get a good set of results.

I'd really like to see something like this :)

oops - just finished installing Apollo and am just amazed at the model's quality and versatility! please ignore my silly question above - I had no idea the figure was so customizable! :)