I was about to go all 'Smoothing Modifier!!" on you Erik, then I saw the Dynamic Dress part. 

The knee issue was a bit of a surprise, espeically on Genesis. Could be specific angle or the pose itself, but this comes from a devout Gen4 user, so ignote it :-) 

Love the sheer look on the dress, but much agreed, the rumples really killed effort #1. I haven't used Optitex in quite awhile, but when it works, it works well. If you want to repose (or animate), then its a gigantic pain in the a$$. 

Said my piece and shutting up! 

John's Khopesh, with the SBT treatment =D

http://fav.me/d6i9dyt

Ooo, nice one Brad! Among all the things that pop, that lattice shadow keeps attracting my eyes. Hmm! 

I'd thought about going the Genesis clone route after having my own series of issues with Dawn, as I'm not quite ready to bite down on buying another massive runtime of goodies for another figure just yet. I suspect it will come from Dawn's developers eventually, but this is a good fix in the mean time! I'll have to give it a whirl later tonight!

You know, I've never really tried making clones for any of my characters, but I know how from trying to do other things. Go figure =D . So what all does that do for a char? Is it more for shaping, or can you use any of V4's clothes/morps afterwards? 

Found my own answer: http://poser.smithmicro.com/poser10-poserpro2014/

hell of a lot of slick features 'the other' software han't thought of.

Hmm...

I'm getting more and more curious about Poser myself, truth be told. Not sure about the animation bit either, so that's rather important. I know it has a 'walk designer', so surely it has some form on animation tool(s). 

Quote - Finished the swords for DA comp' but had to do this one, this is just a test render, I still need to do one with the texture added but I think it looks okay so far.

Do you think I should do a Reality freebie sword set ?

NICE!!! They look fantastic, John! Up to you on the set, but I'll take a 'swing', har har. 

I snagged the blu-ray too last year on Cyber Monday or something. $9 if I recall. It's still one of my all-time favorites, as I have had the dvd version forever and wore out my VHS ver. ;-) 

Do it, you owe it to yourself! 

On IM3, I kept getting TDK Rises vibes, where he spent more time out of costume than in. It was alright, but left me wondering where the magic wandered off at times. A home viewing usually fixes my perceptions as those idiots with cellphones out ruins it for me everytime. 

Rant completed. I'm really leaving this time

Quote - I haven't seen this much hype leading to this much disappointment since The Dark Knight Rises.  

picks at scabs left from TDK rises and Iron Man 3

The curse of The Third's strikes again. 'Nuff from me. Gonna go watch Dark City as a cheer-me-upper 

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Looks like Dawn's legs got badly sunburnt.

I found myself thinking much the same! Whoever their texture model was must have had one* hell* of a weekend before taking reference pics!! I'm not much of a base texture person anymore and use self-made on anything I pass to Lux (with this one exception). 

And I'm with ya' on the wonders of V4. You pretty much nailed it across the board. There's little that can't be fixed with morphs or even a custom sculpt here and there, and that goes for the whole Gen4 line in my opinion. The only thing I really like with Gen5 characters is the ability to pack a lot of them in a scene--but even then--one can cram lots of Gen4's with reduced textures and such. 

It's mighty tough to improve on perfection... 

This whole experiment tonight had me thinking about George Lucas's constant efforts to screw up his previous work with tinkering and fine tuning. More often that not, it's just better off being left alone! 

Add: Mark, great minds think alike LOL

One of these days I'll do a Lux/UE side by side for you, Bob. ;-) I haven't used UE in well over a year (maybe two. Haven't bothered to check!) UE can look good, but nothing like Lux. 

But I get you on the Poser side of things. Even though she has a Daz Studio version, the clothes-incombatibility are a bit of a deal-killer for me. I've got enough figures that do just fine, with goodies that Do work without having to hand edit and pose them to death. 

Really though I'm a bit bummed out right now, so much that I've lost my drive to do any more rendering for the night. I really did have high hopes for Dawn... Sigh... 

Who knows. Maybe they'll tinker with her a bit down the line, or we go the GenX route, but that kinda defeats the point with Dawn. 

What to do, what to do :-/ 

Just a real basic test run with the base Dawn figure and texture. Yes, V4 clothes don't readily fit without major mesh smoothing trickery (don't even bother with autofit--it won't recognize her anyway and makes a hash of things). It's taken me about a half hour to get a shirt, undies and a hair piece on her. Nice figure, but its an awful lot of work without upgrading to her own wardrobe, and that's the kicker.

At least she was free to evaluate... 

I picked her up too, and I must digress, she's very, how to say, 'girl next door'. I like her posability, but her mesh kinks up Real Bad if you try to get her into a squat for instance. (flexability testing at the moment). Cooking my first test instance and will post momentarily. 

Not sure if the Studio/Reality settings came with her, but ACSEL didn't pick anything up. What was there was very flat, gloss-wise, with top coat maxed out. 

What I post will be my settings, FYI. 

Is Dawn available anywhere else, like Rendo or rdna? I'm getting concerned about having so many accounts on peoples' web sites; that, and I'm getting beacoup junk mail everytime I read on a site 'we won't sell your information' and yet, more and more crap comes to the house...