xpdev posted at 10:58AM Fri, 18 September 2015 - #4229091

If light comes from outside, you can add it. With no light, i mean no lights in shadows zone, under the roof, sorry, my mistake.

I'll explain it better

I suppose that there are not lights in the shade zone under the roof, simply because in reality with great outdoor daylight, there is no need to turn on lights that are used at night time.

tonyvilters please use for V4 (if you have) her high resolution skin, so i'm sure skin color variantion are not depending on different skin model but on scene light settings.

Thanks

ok, meanwhile, thanks to both

Since it is not easy to follow you, do your best for rendering this scene.

When posting a new rendering, courtesy give me lights position and settings , the BB sphera settings and settings of IDL Firefly.

So i can reproduce and learn the best from you

Thank you.

tonyvilters posted at 7:41AM Fri, 18 September 2015 - #4229033

I use a single Infinite light that I set between 65 and 80% depending position. => Also => Set the Infinite light to Raytrace shadows. And the Ambient_Value on the sphere between 0.5 and 5 => (I remember at one time BB needed to go up to 800 to show something... LOL.)

OK, give me infinte light position (x,y,z)

thanks

Miss Nancy posted at 7:38AM Fri, 18 September 2015 - #4229038

I saw them! but xpdev said not to add any lights.

If light comes from outside, you can add it.

With no light, i mean no lights in shadows zone, under the roof, sorry, my mistake.

Many thanks tonyvilters and miss nancY I was not far away from good result as your guys. My mistake is that trying to correct skin issue, i add more and more lights or rendering setting.... So i lost the good way

Looking what you do on sky nodes, i ask myself if there is a reasonto use EzSkin.

It add a lost of nodes that you delete......

Latexluv

i thank you for your work, but i really don't understand what you're doing.

Don't forget my scene settings. IDL and GC 2.2 1 infite white light to 85% (direction -51 -342 -12) BB Sphere set to default

This rendering is with HSV color set to 232-255-255

The second is with HSV color set to pure white 255-255-255

The second still seems not really real skin to me, too much pink !!!

Latexluv

you advise me a variation of the color white?

Give me a few minutes and i'll post renders tests.

And another thing

For skin color variation, i have manipulate the Diffuse_Color in HSV, setting it in EzSkin Skin Tab (see picture lower)

I started from color 255/255/255 and lowered to 232/255/255 and the result is the rendering above.

Why i started from 255/255/255 ?

Because manipulate this color gives to "my eyes" the best rendering skin color result.

But i ask to myself if there is another way (the correct way or a starting point ) to choose the color to start from.

may be analysing the original skin color or something else?

Miss Nancy posted at 9:20AM Thu, 17 September 2015 - #4228808

PP2016 will simplify this so that you won't need all those nodes with the new PBR renderer.

i have fear of terrible rendering times and not really good results.

First thing, thanks to everyone for your time and suggestions

Sorry, but i need to understand, at this moment confusion is more than ever.

I'm using Poser Pro 2014 and EzSkin 2.1.1, IDL and GC to 2.2 this is so for all my renderings, unless otherwise specified from me

having said that, I do not take into account the proposed amendments to material nodes (thank you tonyvilters) and i follow what say Miss Nacy for material nodes.

Miss Nancy posted at 8:43AM Thu, 17 September 2015 - #4228808

if the texture you used is EZSkin 2 or later, then don't delete any of those nodes, as they're necessary for alt diffuse and alt specular in PP2014 and earlier.

tonyvilters, thanks for rendering suggestion.

Now. This scene has nothing else than V4, one infinite light and BB Sphere with default settings (for diffuse light)

What is wrong in this rendering, in this skin color (seems like wax ?) and how can i do a better rendering ?

It seems to me like a good rendering... or i really going crazy and i need to go to elsewhere to spend my free time ?

Hi miss Nancy

I'm a bit confused now.

I don't understand if my skin setting has a lot of unnecessary nodes or i don't understood what tonyvilters means.

The language problem.

I have absolutely NO idea who makes or distributes these material room setups, but EVEYTHING between the Diffuse texture and the Posersurface has to go.

I'm reading and reading again your words, not sure i understood what you mean.

Can you get my material room setup picture and delete unnecessary nodes ?

I´m starting to think that all i know about IDL rendering is totally wrong.

Thanks

tonyvilters

I'm away from Pc at this time due of work.

Tomorrow i'll do some test following your words.