Nono, I was saying I think you have a cool site, and 'rosity would lose more than they gain by saying you are "competition". Like you said, it's hard to keep your head above water with a smaller site, and I think arist-oriented sites need to stick together, before they are all little branches of the Microsoft World Network or similar. I think you're being great about the whole thing. Don't mind me, I think out loud alot. 8)

I saw this one coming a mile off. That's what happens when you make a blanket statement like "we don't link to the competition". File that one in the "oops!" file! ;] Personally, based on what LadySilverMage says and my experiences with 3DaRena, I would consider her more of a self-supporting affiliate than competition, with the possible revenue redirection inherent in potential "competition" more than alleviated by the publicity, links to 'rosity, and gain from the existence of "cohabitive" artists like AprilYSH. Therefore, you have definite and apparent benefit balanced against a small potential of loss. Seems like a winning situation to me. At this time, I think it is bad to be divisive over rather unimportant issues, especially since the ability to maintain a smaller website independent of the corporate advertising monsters is becoming increasingly difficult. I am certain that a legitimate concern prompts the definition of a "competing" website as being not eligible for direct links, and that this decision was made with good intention on the part of the admins. I just think, again personally, that the disadvantages of a position like that will outweigh the benefits, as well as giving a potentially poor image of the admins as authorative and disinterested- untrue, I am certian, but I know how people will jump on things here!

"We dont allow linking to sites that are considered Competition to our site. Sorry - Thats just the way it is." Eeeewwwww! You're not allowed to say that unless you're a Jewish mother. ;]

That's what I said, WarriorDL. I was just putting an example for Wolfrose's question of "what's the difference between linking to a site or direct to a .zip or .sit". Site good, (unless, of course, they're "the compitition", heaven forbid!), .zip and .sit bad. ;]

This is how I understood it from involvement with the issue at another site. SiteA (on Server A) is a resource for Xfiles. Users can create and contribute their own files. SiteA hosts XF's for sale, but free XF's have to be on your own page. ServerB hosts the Xfilerz Home. Xdude has links at SiteA for free files. However, ServerB notices that XF's is getting downloads, but no banner clicks or hits. Therefore, HostB is seeing non-revenue producing bandwidth usage, or remote loading. Site B shuts XF's site down. To the best of my knowledge, a remote link to another site which links directly to a ZIP or SIT file, and does not allow income-generation for the linked site (banners, etc.) is remote loading, and a terminable action under most of the provider TOS I've read.

Isn't that the same as remote loading? I know with many site hosts that's a TOS violation.

That happens to me alot, not because I'm concise, but because I type with one finger! I always Copy my reply to my clipboard before I hit send, then if I've timed out, I just Paste it back in! Hope that helped. 8)

I use a program called Moray that does straight MDL files. Is that what you mean?

The "Raven" texture in the store sounds like it would fit the bill. I think you should read the "challenge rules" section- requests go in the Wishing Well. (main page)

A good way to integrate the two may be to have concept-based challenges- effects (i.e. specularity), concept (landscape, portrait), technique (making water), etc. Everyone has something they "have a knack for" that they could share. Comparitive discussions would be nice, too- to go along with the challenges- for instance, I like textures. What is the difference between a Moray texture, a Bryce, a 3ds, can they exchange, etc. What are the pros and cons of photo textures as opposed to "built". Then for the challenge- say, "skin: photo vs. procedural" or "Gone fishin'- real water looks" or similar. (I think texture is very underrated, in many cases.)

I don't get it. what's new I was going to read the whole thread, but I think I'll wait for the movie. EXCERPT FROM SECRET MERCHANT FORUM (NOT REALLY) "We need to do something about..." "Complaining?" "Fighting?" "Bunny slippers! Someone took my..." "um, no. Swords. There ARE a lot." "Huh. Have a sale?" "Put them on a CD?" "..I mean I just took them off for a minute..." "Who's fighting?" "We'd have to ask everyone who made them..." "...I'm gonna be, if someone doesn't give them back..." CONTINUED IN OUR NEXT THRILLING INSTALLMENT (NOT REALLY)

Poly want a cracker? (Sorry. Sorry.) 8}

I bought poser 4, and I don't see a Painter 3D anywhere! I've looked and looked on both discs.

Oh! Thanks! I like world builder, but I don't think it's that much better than terreagen, so far. The trees still don't do it for me- the unnatural growth angles from the trunk are so- cg! So far I prefer x-frog trees, but the files are ridiculous! I made a really nice x-frog tree, and saved it as a DXF, and the file was 15 GIGS! I'm still trying to learn World Builder, though. (I'd never heard it called Animatek.)

So no UV in DXF. Right. (Thanks!) Crossroads is neat. The file is bad- my other DXF's opened fine. I'll have to redo it. (And there's a picture of a cute widdle baby when you open the program... aaawwwww!)