one last thing If it's worth doing, Its Worth doing well. think about it

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Okay time for my 2 cents lol.....(i seem to have alot of 2 cents lately lol) okay first of all the renderengine.. poser 5 does have the option to switch to the poser 4 render and back with the option to ignore shader trees or not. Poser 5 allows you to create render settings for test and Porfessional renders seperate so speed is no excuse just set it to the non professional part and set the options properly there are tons of sites out there with explinations on what to set it at for speed or quality (link above is one) second the Clothing room i do admit that the cloth room is a bit hard to get use to and not many publish enough info on it to there tutorials and/or sites but it does have lots of possability if people would just utilize all its options like hard decorated areas and such. The hair room.... basicaly it does blow so far as to the type of stuff out there that is available but i am sure that there is someone out there that can do something about that. i think the hair room was rushed and is a little too basic and could have been done better by CL but we all know that CL never rushes anything (rolls eyes at to the sarcasm in that statement) as for supposrting eather -4/pp or P5 why cant you eather supply runtimes for both or sell 2 diffrent packages for each. it cant be that much more work to zip 1 extra file. the meterial room..... yes it takes a bit to get use to and for someone to get high quality results you have to make a ton of nodes and settings but when you get use to it and know what your doing it is a breeze (like everything else out there in life) the amazeing thing about the material room is that you CAN get great quality with little work. the only down side i see is the face that if you make a saved setting in the material room say for Ve's head the nyou will have to select each head material area and click the saved node setting and do that for EACH Material section for the head. as for the poser 5 stuff not selling and people not useing Poser 5 . 1: there arnt many things out there for Poser 5 people to buy so they have to settle for the P4 stuff 2: people dont use poser 5 much because there isnt hardly anything out there FOR it. not the P5 People........ THEY SUCK. they look funny and is kinda hard to make look diffrent with NO MORPHS. okay i babbled i steped on toes and i not only stuck my foot in my mouth but shoved it down my throat as well lol shyly exiting room Grace37 ^_^

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Well all i know is this.. Maya is used by alot of proffesionals for makeing movies (I.E. Pixar studios makers of toystory 1 and 2) 3ds max is used by alot of gameing proffessionals to make large scale games, and is used by most people i know. i dont know much about lightwave 7 i do know that maya uses obj's mainly and there is now a plugin in the works to import poser items into maya and still be able to use poses morph channels and textures (see attached url)which to me looks amazeing especialy the pharoh pic M3 looks alomst too real to me. almost and it is still in development but there is a beta version available. well there were my 2 cents and now im broke lol i hope this helps you some. tring to help Grace37

"0h my g0d! +hi$ ru13$. j00 r0x0r. @b0u+ +iM3 $0M3 0f +h3$3 p0$3r ziPp3rh3@dz g0+ @ c1u3. " Translation "Oh my god! This rules. You roxor. About time some of these poser zipperheads got a clue." hmmmm......

also is there a place where all these classes are posted all togather its a pain searching for em lol

what settings should i use for exporting from poser?

i too would have loved something like this especialy for characters and texture sets created for use with the P5 meteral room only that have been saved the the meteral directory instead of the pose files. you have to select each meteral area and click the meteral then mose onto the next section and do the same and do that for every materal zone on the object/character. if there was a way to fix it so that it did all the poses to all the material zones it would make it so much less taxing on time and pationts. CL didnt put much thought into that aspect of the materal room they need to not only make it advanced and versitale they need to make it smooth and quick to use expecialy in times like these where most people (in america anyway) want things right away and right now we people in the age of technology are looseing out pationts lol reluctintly ranting Grace37 :)

Nerd3d has made add ons so that the walk designer works with the daz figures michael 3 and victoria 3 i hope this helps ya. I know its not exactily what you want but if nerd can do this for michael and victoria maybe he can help you with your problem. he has a forum on his site as well that you can maybe post this at he regularly answers it he has even helped me in the passed. and as far as i am conserned he is the master of poser animation.

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Well to date daz studio is at beta 0.9.4 and every version that comes out is better then the last the rendering has speed up and alot of the most anoying problems have been taken care of. as for the bryce plug in it is at the moment available for bryce from what i read at Daz3D they intend on improveing bryce D|S and mimic to someday be almost all in one in D|S you create the character and set it up, in mimic you take care of the voice animation and sound and in bryce you create an imersive and realistic world for your character to be in all togather there idea for the future of these programs sound wonderfull to think with little work you can create an entire animation with realistic world daz3d has always said that D|S is and never was intended to be a replacement for poser but instead more like a helper program or assistant progrma it make all this content easier to handle and work with. but do keep in mind that Daz|Studio is in BETA that means that it is not complete and they arnt going to add all functunailty right away so that they can have something to make add ons and plug ins for in the future they did mention that that is the only thing about D|S that they will be chargeing for is the plugins. dont expect it to work perfectly that is what beta testing is all about its so us the consumers can put D|S through the entire shebang and tell daz what needs fixing so that when it is released in its full state that it wount be bug ridden like poser always is and other programs are.

i hope my babblings have helped somone i know most of this has been repeated so many times in so many diffrent forums but as long as people ask it needs to be said.

on another note there is a web site that has released a plugin for maya to be able to use poser content even without poser it is in its earlie beta testing right now and is very bare bones but what they have achieved is amazeing it imports morphs characters props and mats all into maya and you will be able to pose morph and render all in maya and from the pics on there site (especialy the egyptian one) the outcome is almost too real :)

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i for one never use texture filtering it removes alot of the skin detail and other stuff. i dont understand why it is in there anyway can someone tell me?

OMFG your all still going on about this (rolls her eyes)

Sigh ...i read half way through this forum post and got fed up i mean people get a grip here take a chill pill daz has stated in there D|S forum and lots of other places that the Daz|Studio program will remain Free and that they plan on makeing money from the Plugins made for it by selling them. the rendering engine is limited because daz has yet to buy a the rights for a final daz version the rendering engine is in beta and made by a diffrent company so it is time limited. The content is ONLY limited when it is in DEMO format! and to the person that talked about someone who gets a free version and then gets all kinds of stuff for it just to find out that they have to pay for the orignal model;...WELL DUH 1 if ya do something like that you are a bit STUPID! sorry that was a bit harsh but true you are always told ahead of time that in item is a demo release and that it is time limited if you then go and buy all kinds of products for it your a moron! you all seem to be gietting into a tizzy over this this is a BETA release the Final version will be well tested and made to our satasfaction that is why they are doing this beta testing this was if you dont like something about it dont just say "huff i dont like it ill never use it" if you do that then you have no right to complain at all!" you are suppose to go oveer to the bug submit thingie ant tell them what you like what you dont and what needsfixing you can also post it on the D|S forum at the daz3D site. if you arnt going to try to make this program the best it can be. then dont gripe about! i for one think it is comming along nice it gets better every release the gfx engine is beautiful i love the fact that in D|S when you move a morph dial you dont get jettery and it jumps from .005 to 55.000 like poser does and the fact that the transparencys are always there makes it so much easier to morph the hair and to see what it looks like when it is finnished without rendering the only complaint i have is when inporting a saved poser sceene the lights and camaras are all screwed up the lights are more like haveing 100 suns around your figure and it all looks black and none of the imported camaras work at all but i for one have brought this to the attention of daz and i do have a right to complaine lol just my 50 cents worth

thank you very much and ill take your suggestions into consederation ^_^

well let me catch you up... most places are reachable by port or plane of knoledge port stone or Lost dungeons of norath magus. so bats are obsolete especialy means they still keep breaking down. with the addition of lost dungeons of norath instanced zones became available which means that when your group enters the dungeon only your group has access to thet dungeon when another group wants to play that dungeon another seprate zone just for them is created so that camping isnt a problem. there are still areas that camping is a problem but not as much anymore because there are so many places to camp now there really isnt a reason to be upset anymore. almost no one plays the stones game anymore it is boreing and a little dumb lol there are also in game mapping your suppose to draw your own map as you go but most just download them lol and install them so no excuse getting lost anymore lol. my main gripe is people tend to be rude and unhelping but i recently moved to the roleplaying prefered server and that is a thing of the passed everyone there is so polite and helpfull...well unless they take ther rpg'ing too seriously then being an ogre i get alot of people screaming and running away or people like dwarves holding a grudge agganst me cuz i ate there uncle once lol. all of those problems i hear have been fixed in EQ2 in EQ2 you can own your own boat and most zones are instanced you can even own your own home or guild hall. if you once liked everquest i suggest you goto www.everquest.station.com and check it out it just entereed the application part of the beta testing stage. but this is poser forum so who is going to make my eq character morphs HUH HUH HUH lol

how do you think they make these figures out of the unimesh they take a basic mesh and change it to look like what they want it to i.e. morph it.