I agree, from what I was told yes about the sr-2. This thing ran so bad with P5 it was ...it was that bad. So I came here to find out what others were finding. The 20 or so minutes I spent with it was an attemt with a hi res posette and hair no background no ground no clothes no props nothing but bare posette and hair. I shut it down re-attempted a positioning and it wouldn't budge. Or I should say I would have to guess at where the postion of the posette was when trying to repostion it. But hearing this makes me want to re-attempt it. just to satisfy my curiosity. it runs fine on his bigger machine. Heck that's what made me want it to begin with. Big changes over p4.

Serene that's about what I will have after a boost to 800mhz which is the max I can push this particular machine too. Right now I'm running 500 PIII, G-force 128mg and 768mb ram. But I'm not about to put P5 on this machine the way it is. Not after what I saw. And I wasn't running full texture shaded on his machine I tried at first but it was an instant no go, I couldn't even position the posette with out a 30 second delay before it would even allow me to attempt to postion the posette. And to Chrisdmd Poser 5?!? on a dell 650 note book? and an 8mb video, and only 256 ram? Not That I doubt your word but I'd almost have to see that in action to believe it. What did you do rewright the Python software. what did you take out of P5 to get it run on that - with hair dyn?? JohnRender had to shut his down in a render attempt and he's got a 1.8ghz. But okay, tell me how you did it, I'm listening... and we are talking P5 now, right?!?

Whats your G-Card?

Please don't get the wrong impresion I'm not getting the dual for poser - That 's nessasary for other things I want to do. But from what I've seen a 500mhz machine will not work. The memory he had in the machine was 512 with nothing but win 2000 and p% on board - like I said - he was just showing me how it would run on a machine similiar to mine. How he set it up as far a mem allocation I don't know. i was only on it for 20 minutes. Once I brought the hair in it froze up. No Props nothing other than hair. I tried it in wire frame and still wouldn't budge. Slow I can deal with, I am now with some of my appz. But not stand still. Thats why I ask what are the TRUE min sys requirements.

Excuse the double post. Thanks

Nance - 2 questions - In applying this to the skin layer as I've noticed in others work, It applies to the whole skin layer. Including the palms of the hands. How would you regulate on the arm per say NOT to apply this mat to the palms of the hands and fingernails only. Secondly; in rendering out a multi-frame sceen and wanting a natural gravity effect to apply to the water drops and/or ripple effects you so kindly showed above, so the ripples flow or drops run down to the floor following the posettes contours. How to do this with-out it looking un-natural because from what i am seeing this technique works great for still renders but not multi-frame movement. Am I correct? Thirdly for anyone - I recenly saw the movie Artifical Intellegence - in the last scene where the machines had evolved (the tall skinny semi-trans figures that brought the mother back to life) does anyone have any idea how they acheived that look of tranparency? and the internal action (when they spoke)And can it be achieved in poser4 or do i have to have p5?

Alright now knowing all the above, say one wants to create the oily/wet/greased look- but with out a skin texture and other words completly transparent but with form and "depth" yet keeping that extreme sheen. like a bucket of crystal clear oil with out the bucket and keeping it posable yet fluid like? can any-one follow that? or am I being too non-discrip. Remember the animated water scene in the abyss. like that only with the high sheen. But not chromy.

I just recieved an e-mail from one of the artist in the UK and this is what it said: To achieve this greased up look - in Poser 4 give your figure a skin texture, set highlight colour to white and uncheck the 'apply texture to highlight' box in surface materials (from memory haven't used 4 in a while) In Poser 5 apply a skin texture to the figure, set specular colour to white and disconnect it from the texture node Since rendering this pic I've found that adding a bump map and an anisotropic reflection node would make an even more realistic wetlook Hope this makes sense and helps you Happy rendering Rubbermatt

i've tried the white high light and It's just not the look I want or maybe I haven't the tweak right yet. There has been sevral posts of art work that has a overall gloss. A real high wet sheen. Perhaps if I use the highlight with a plastic wrap filter in PS? I'll check out the tut a Clabs for lips and eyes. But I did see these two tuts somewhere. I believe there is a connection between the multi-transparent texture layering and the wet look that I'm looking for. Rendererotica has several posts of kick ass art work where clothes and skin have this high sheen. I'm waiting on a couple of replies from some of the artists. if they do reply for anyone interested I'll post them

there is a tutorial on smart props here in the tutorial section that may help you or at least get you started