Well, OK. I'll try your suggestion out and see what it comes to.

I uploaded the wrong image in the "Fluffy Clouds" thread. I'll have to re-post later. I thought i deleted that post as well. Odd.

I even looked into asileFX tutorials and even he does not cover what i am looking for but anyways back to testing.

www.asilefx.com/product.php

Sorry, this is Kerkythea.

www.kerkythea.net/joomla/

I have been playing with those scale levels a lot lately. Currently i am looking for more complexity which again is something i never see from vue users that i am aware of. It seems a big deal to me.

No, TG2 does an automatic one color base but with a sub-pixel fractal bump base as well. It's stuff like this i am after:

www.planetside.co.uk/gallery/f/tg2/7-TGD603.jpg.html

That's the tough part of vue. It really would be great if displacement like a canyon ridge can be done but in vue displacement can be slow and heavy and i hope this is speed up for vue 7.

Kerkythea is also as slow as hell and it's instancing is still way behind vue's. You can't even variate the color tone per tree for example. It's a good renderer overall but it's just behind in certain areas. It's got a long ways to go.

The one aspect to vue i'd like to see more often that will bring it up to terragen 2 is attention to details when upclose to the ground using only procedurals, both layered color and fractals. I don't see this at all anywhere. It seems that no one wants to use the graph editor at all but i want those nice fine fractal sub-pixel details that those TGers are turning out. We need in depth tutorials based on the fractal terrains and the graph editor, i mean real deep stuff. Lets get those vue renders highly detailed when up close to the ground with differances in soil content, tiny pebbles, sediment, strata and so on.

I just hope that vue's displacement is faster this time around because using bumping just does not cut it anymore. It just looks to fake.