True and good notice Lucy... I use a debit/credit card to purchase here directly from my bank. and yes the 3 number verification is something I am not too fond of. which is why I haven't bought much from here .. my recent purchases have been from Daz or elsewhere. With exception to the gift wishlists for JD and a few others.

ok as I see it bud .. it looks excellent (travelling the Hellraiser series more .. kewl) As I seen 4th is right about the bones names. I take it that you wish the hooked chains going into the body or wrapping the arms? Assuming the first .. it's gonna be hard unless you make them act as a seperate posable cr2/pp2 where the hooks smart prop to the body parts you want them to. I know little about conforming but after reading through Nerd's tutorial a while back, when I made Alendra (Many thx Xurge for the chest piece it worked out great) but what I do know is that the bone names and axis need to be the same. One way that might work is creat invisible bones that adhere to the name of the body parts you want them conforming to ... like a chest if you want a hook through the chest ... then smart prop or parent the hook end into the invisible chest piece. Theoretically it would work so long as the chain is posable. In that matter best to treat the posability of the chain as a snake. Then maybe you can add pose files to it to make the chains go at different angles and etc.. either way though it seems best to look at the chain as a seperate cr2/pp2. Hope this helps some bud.

Ok The backup CD's bit, .. There are various ways to look at this. .. though instantly most think ooohhh warez transfering ... yes that is ONE possibility though highly doubtful ... True an image speaks a thousand words .. yet sometimes those words are often misinterpreted. There are legit companies out there that do backup cds also. hrrrmm should we send them to the companies they make backups from or for? and in truth every host out there, that is a competant web host, make backups of their clients websites. OOooooooohhh smell copywrite infringement, get real. Back up CD's are there for those of us that cannot afford spending an extra $200 USD on a cdr or cdrw drive. Yes there are lower priced ones .. but thats an avg here and other countries it can cost higher. Making back up cd's for clientel, which are the customers or people you do business with, is legal practice. So lets not jump the gun bc of an image from her site. Her clientel is 3D Artists. So her prime means of drawing them is by offering to back up their 3d graphics or graphics production CD's. And as Blood stated ... that is not the case.. the case is Asia and Jillian not Back up CD's.

I remember some accusations of hers before ... hitting talented artists and creators. All the ones I remember of were falsely accused and I also remember hearing of her IM'ing purchasers and threatening them with lawsuits. Yet, under another name they did buy them. From all that I have heard .. I first off am glad I have never bought anything of hers. Nor will I ever. I had one thing of hers in my wishlist and deleted it. I believe in customer service, customer satisfaction, fair competition, etc.. I am and have always been highly business oriented and am starting my own soon. I also have a belief in honor, what SteffyZZ has shown her ways to be are both dishonorable and unbusiness-like. I also know what it's like when hard drives fail. I admit, sometimes I lay too much trust in my computers. Sometimes I don't fully back up as I should .. and have lost files that were needed for business measures or transactions. My advice to Bobbie is once this is free and cleared, as I see no reasons it won't be, request the data from your host that was taken down. Most, not all, still keep backups of questionable data in the case of a lawsuit and evidence is needed. Dan

This is a shame .. after seeing all Blooddoll shown .. I have to say Steffy needs to have an eye test or is greedy over other peoples hard work. I see similar coloring in the two but thats it. Jillian is more porous skin, the brow work is totally different (a little too much smoothing in my opinion) but the skin over all seems more realistic than Asia. It's a sad time when jealousy clouds competition. Dan Oh and clint .. don't worry too much about the mistake ... when I was administrating an IRCD once ... I banned the whole server with an /akill @ .... never toy with that command unless you understand it LMAO

Actually it's good practice to also look at all the 3D graphics community sites ... some have them lower then even Curious Labs homepage ... I know one had it for 189 not including shipping/handling fees

Well as I see both together .. yes I see some differences .. but I also see a hell of alot of simularities. using someones methods, or modifying anothers work for self credit and profits is simply something wrong .. I tell ya seeing both of these together ... I am glad I am not into anime styled characters else I would e seriously pissed if I ended up buying something like this after buying something that it was copied and modified from. I agree with Black on this matter... His work and his time went into making something great only to have someone else walk over it and redistribute it with little changes. Especially someone that he thought of as a good friend. I have always wanted to get into modelling and etc.. for Poser and various other programs ..but now I am taking a serious second thought on is it worth it.

Awesome Val, I already have some plans for them .. if I can afford to get them

Sweet Moe and billy! Can't wait for it.

the skins you would need I believe are the ones for posette possibly.. though not entirely sure how P3 works with textures in comparison to P4. As far a vick and etc.. goes .. P3 doesn't have the ability to use those higher end models .. P4 upgraded to P4.03 is what you would need.

Yes Tripod, Angelfire, and I believe most other freesites are turning to no longer allowing linking to files. Most of them, including some paid servers, require you to link back to a page that all the files are linked to. Reason being is those sites make their money by sponserships. Those have to be viewed. Linking to a file makes that impossible and then the bandwidth they give you freely is not being paid for even by their sponsorships.

it could be many things .. from access noise in you isp line to a virus ... what I just put there was a way to fight off the viral aspect.

yes technically thats what my machine started to do ... without my knowledge .. I wasn't even at the PC and it kept loading more connections upon connections upon connections ... I just thank god that it wasn't a malicious payload viris as well.

ok I thought in store my bad thx Clint

yes rcook I was the original person that contacted tammy ... drk in fact advertosed in a manner of how to get various warez poser and other files.... most know of that method .. but not all do. I will not post the method used as not everyone knows of it and it may inadvertantly advertise to others how to do such. I also gave tammy a couple of other people who witnessed that happening as well for purposes of not being considered a my word against his issue. He infact abruptly broke the TOS that I always assumed existed. Such as telling other how to get warezed files.