I am a new US citizen and I don't complain about my mother or any language. I just say I regret that you don't speak any other one but ouy mother's one, and regret that what I hear from you is nothing but volunteer misunderstandings, okay. Yes I complain about: You as well as me need to know more and more different people. I know Arabs, and I love them. Do you know any ? _Oh, let's talk abou tmy retouch of your "Last Supper" retouch, that would make the Schilblick winning the jackpot faster, wouldn' it ? Tell me waht you think of this graphic chat between two "pairs of eyes" ? Salut a toi, "Cesar" ! NON-Morituri te salutant, this time ! Alfie.

REAL TRANSLATION IN ENGLISH...is that respectul: For you argus1971 ! You're Welcome ! Exact translation of "P.S.:To Vod": liftan is just the bad nickname I took to make fear with superstitious, and ..it seems to work good here in USA, not that the Americans have tons, but they have well enough, but Americans are bave guys, brave gals, and I' m not home sick (from France). Well. After that,(...) I think I can do like you do, breathe fresh & pure air...and give more of my time creating prettier things than my political cartoons) If things turned bad,(I add: you understand "hi hi", righ?) we have always ways to not be heard using our old Verlant or Javanaise Slang...!!! LOL (I add: That's why we don't talk German today: But we should talk english instead of keeping french, like everybody in the world, that's all what I think bad about USA and GreatBritain !...)This parenthesis was added now. LOL. End of my "P.S." to Vod. Satisfied ? I'm sorry for that. I the future , don't be so "cheval"(ridding your horses run-away mad), I promise I will speak in english too to translate. (excepted if there was something I found dictatorial..as you doubts about my sincerity and your idiot affirmation that I was "bashing" USA. That's not true. I say I'm bashing injustice, when I can. That's why I answer you and other, you wouldn't have the nerve to bash. Traduction of my PS by Crescent wasn't bad. Thanks. Crescent. Alfie.

I propose to see my Legume's retouch on his "Last Supper" called "Return to sender" OR, actually, the: "The late super"(I'm a kind of legume too, sorry, I'm harsh to be swallown... even if my grammar sucks, tell me what you think about "Late super" and "late supers"...Don't tell me about "Gone Supers" I 'd be so painful... Bye. Alf

Bravo, Legume ! (Would I say Master Salvador New-Dali Legume ? (LOL) No hard feeling, I'm glad that you got this award, and I really now understand more your humour ! ..It gave me some ideas foer my own artworks for now...and for the future. I love your placards ! YTou'e an intelligent man. Thanks a lot & excuse me to havemistaken what you meant! I'm so "gibberish" (LOL). You're great ! Byebye. Alf.

...Think this forum posted by virus first could be over, if you don't mind. We all have all seen that what when you wrote: "Freedom of speech requires responsibility...", you were certainly talking about you and some of your friends who haven't any, weren't you, poserfool ? I think it's time to get this fake & crooked forum posted by virus first over. Is that too gibberish for you to get it ? I say: Just please be decent enough to shut up. Your apology might be wished, but, if not, at least, your silence SEEMS TO BE WANTED about what is or not gibberish or bad "evil "free-speech"(ha ha )is: it's seems to be wanted NOT by me only. About this forum & about this or that one cn say or not, and too about what's the hell Renderosity has become.." Good Lord ! D'you really hate where you are a guest ? THEN GO ! Do you still say now: "gibberish" too ? _How gibberish "Sense has been banned --------------Sense" first message was, talking about the Site that is your host ? Over. I think you have enough to think with, ifever you can think. For me, this joke has lasted too long, and yes, I, or other ones too can make you shut up and be out of here... Just go on provokation, wanna give it your last try ? Up to you. _I see so much "the Hardship-Warrior" through you...wouldn't amaze me...not intimidated though...sorry. Renderosity will jugde if you qualified for that. Chao & definitely goodnight ! No hard feeling though, was just ridiculous from the beginning. Just saying the title of the complain proved it was a local tiny clan's plot. -When you loose playing cards,we say in french,_sorry, yes, I was born french, makes me retarded...travel a little bit... your friend adversaire says to you: (friendly though) "This turn, "you're in..." (means in the sh.. ).An they aren't "evils" for saying that. I mean, I just hope _ for you that you stop it right now. Alfie (liftan for Renderosity.)

Are you answering to me, poserfool ? If yes, then this is for you only. If not, consider my apologies, and don't bother. ----SO,----TO POSERFOOL, EVENTUALLY_______________ Sorry, what you said is wrong about this site. _It's just simply false. I got the US citizenship now, and, God knows, I'm not going to shut up in MY new country. Because I love USA. And freedom of speech, yes. _And USA is not going to become a dictature, even if some illegitimate leaders, their guys & troops were leading it...for the moment. _Renderosity doesn't kick in the b... anyone disagreeing or complaining about Renderosity, or even against other complains.They publish them. But maybe you'd WANT that they'd kick out the free speech if this speech was not in acchord with the things you want to "conserve". I have nothing against seeing the Conservative conserving the good things and good traditions. I mean they have too very qualified, honest & gentle persons there. The question is: Why do they deny the Evidence, and never admit that they could have been totally wrong, and never dare deny blinly the goddamned Truth simply saying that: Damn it and us, for one second,because we are ACTUALLY wong. And I say: Only the morons never doubt. I am not attacking the Conservative, I'm just attacking the hypocrites amongst them. And the ones who look like deny or hide their head in the sand. All the rest of them are okay for me. Am I a champion of free speech only for myself and my friends ? Not at all. Second error. The fact that I disagree with condamning blindly a site that did nothing too much wrong with their GUESTS, and the fact I estimate it's my right to support them when I really think some ones are trying to destroy this ite from the inside. No "Troie's Horses", we already gave to these beggars before: They ain't real beggars. And I repeat, if you don't like Renderosity, just GO ! ...won't happen, you won't desrtroy freedom here on Rnderosity, neither nowhere else, in America or anywher else, even if it was tried, and even if you had a 4 years "Sozial"-Plan or more to do it. It will stay a free country and Renderosity a "liberal" site,in the sense of Liberty, or freedom if you prefer. I know you mustn't like the term "liberal" too much... _If people like me or me are "kicked out" from Renderosity, but it won't be by your power. Or you would FIRST have had succeded to have Renderosity closed at the same time, isn't it the real aim for you ? ..Just forget it...and forget me...as I'm ready to forget you. The "US Buiding" is not going to kick me out either. But maybe to your mind, guys like me or others deserve to be kicked out from USA ? Because they just don't agree with the same old "brand new show" on TV and because they denounce it being a propaganda ? IS that your "SENSE" of fredom ? Let me laugh. Read again my letter: There's no "epuration on Renderosity", just a tiny hateful ridiculous conspiracy, by the ones who want to raise a hell in the "farm". <<>> (french proverb.) You just condamn Renderosity because this place is sincerely welcoming free minded guys and gals, free art, and free opened-minded people, maybe more or less creative, yes, but anybody can progress. This is ridiculous. And I'm not championing Freedom of Speech here or anywhee else. I only think "US Buiding" should see clearly that "US Building " would not exist at all without the Europeans who came and build this country for you (and why not me if I bring something to this country working art is one of my jobs, the rest are journalism and computing and acting to "Conservate" freedom, Liberty and not only its Bartoldi's Statue (strangely french, the guy Bartoldi...), but the real thing, freedom in act of everyone for everyone, and every single day, in any legal way ? If it's considered a crime trying honestly doing this now on..and never give up, then you are really have no future...and it won't be the ones you think, that you can call rats, who'll "leave the boat" when it sinks..Watch out though: It just has began to have a "leak" at it,... for about one year!... I'm not a ennemy of the USA just because I can't support some infamy(ies), felony(ies) or big mistake(s) they could commit, or because I talk about them. And that's why even Immigration Services are not stupid enough to kick people like me or you ... out of out of their "Building"(that our common Europpean ancestors built ! We are here to help.( sorry, it' true, you like it or not, it's a helpul comments & speech for helping people to wake & stay standing Citizens). It's maybe clumsy, but it's sincere. Bonsoir chez toi. Salut toi if you "get it". Too bad for you if you don't. So, please, stop to 'worry" for me, okay ?... THANKS ! Alfie (liftan for Renderosity)

Public answer to virus message called: "Sense has been banned ------- Sense": (I had deleted it because I wanted to make it with less english mistakes and more understandable, must try to do the best I can about english...thanks.) _____________________ Virus, ...don't like Renderosity ? Why still here, virus ? THE ANSWER IS JUST : PROVOKATION: Renderosity 's working good. It's liberal, it's open to free thinking, to free speech, free art. Why not try to destroy it, saying that there no sense anymore here ? That's a little bit too much simple, Mister ! The vice would be to pretend so, in order that artists spend heir time being revolted by people like you, and try to push some out of their minds, so that THEY would be banned. The ones who like this site and are only here to tell their brains out sincerely with their artworks and their comments. So, helpful comments for inprovements, okay, that's all we need if we are artists, not some cheap venimous vomitted hateful words. Which OTHER site on the Web does (and it is not going to be a Spider's web, sorry, virus) offer this kind of freedom ? Not many, but they are still too many for some if there was only one. And it is not the case, sorry. _I don't think your message: "Sense has been banned ------- Sense has been banned from Renderosity"....is any kind of constructive critiscism. I just think it's provokation. What do you propose ? Nothing. _I just think too, that some people are annoyed by the freedom Renderosity gives to their guests, artists or not. And that they react with anger, or more viciously, because some people here say the truth here (too much loud ? Too much strongly ? Too much openly ? But we are in The Country of Liberty, aren't we? Or is it now a legend from the past ? No, it's gonna be more and more the crual and eternal Reality in USA and everywhere else for people who want to abuse Humans and Nature, small scale or bigger, no matters), and, as everywhee, they become the scapegoats and the preys, because these other ones hate freedom. Some can't fight them openly , so they try to make them fight between themselves. This is a well-known "Strategery"...would I dare say ?!!! Liess mir lachen !(LOL) If only we "could close Renderosity", shouldn't it be closed, my dear Max, or my Dear Levretta ?"...is n't it the real deal, virus ? ...because some people beginning to think, is a VERY DANGEROUS thing for some...Periods & Systems. Now about sense: (Have you got any, writing this, by the way ?) _I think you have a goal, because you just want some of us out. That's the deal you are planning, and I'll explain it just now, and why it's NOT going to work). First of all, Renderosity is "sensed" to ban whoever they want, as long as it is justified. Yes, even by a simple Internal Policy.And I can testify I never saw any injustice yet here. And that you like it or not, well, it's not important, because you and me just are only two or of their GUEST(S)_with no money-charge. So, be a little bit humble...if you know this term. Second of all,...My last "common-sensed" thought about what you are just saying (after, I'll shut up, but I want people to understand what the deal is in reality with this kind of "Made up on purpose by some" Forum... and I'm going to try explaining it here: _What makes "sense" to me is that banishing anything or anyone that can could want to break out, "having it shut", pushing "it" to the point that the adms, the moderators and the owners would have to give up with their own Web-domain and whole Website, or even trying to jeopardize such a good site as Renderosity would deserve to be banished, and that it is THE good and ONLY thing to do in this case. ...Because you know what ? You don't break what's good ! ..Can't break freedom either, like they couldn't shut up some public people, they couln't always do it, and they will be able to do it less and less. But the ones who were broken were always soon or late: Emperors, Tyrans, and Dictators, and their supporters will have to shut up at least about their nostalgia. These times are over when Humans could possessed other Humans. Don't like Renderosity ? Why still here, virus ? THE ANSWER IS JUST : PROVOKATION: Renderosity 's working good. It's liberal, it's open. Why not try to destroy it, saying that there no sense anymore here ? That's a little bit too much simple, Mister ! _I don't think your message: "Sense has been banned ------- Sense"....is any kind of constructive critiscism. I just think it's provokation. I just think too, that some people are annoyed by the freedom Renderosity gives to their guests, artists or not. And that they react with anger, because some people say the truth here (too much, to strongly, too much openly ? But we are in The Country of Liberty, aren't we?), and, as everywhee, of course, Mr. Virourse, they become the scapegoats and the preys, because these other ones hate freedom. _"Oh, Darling, If only we "could close Renderosity", why couldn't we, my dear Max, or my Dear Levretta ?" Be honest with yourself and with all:...is n't it the real deal, virus ? ...because some people beginning to think is a VERY DANGEROUS thing for some...Period (they brainless "think"...) Now about sense: (Have you got any, writing this, by the way ? I think you have, yes, because you just want some of us out of Renderosity, that's the deal you are planning, and I explain it very quietly, because there's no doubt about it): First of all, Renderosity is "sensed" to ban who they want, as long as it is justified. And I can testify I never saw any injustice yet her. An that you like it or not, well, you just are their GUEST(S). So, be a little bit humble...if you know this term. Second of all,...My last "common-sense" Thought about what you are just saying (after, I'll shut up, but I want people to understand what the deal is in reality, and I'm going to try explaining here: _What makes "sense" to me is banishing anything or anyone that can could want break out, having it shut, pushing it to the point that the Adms, the Moderators and the owners to give up with thei domain and whole site, or even trying to jeopardize such a good site as Renderosity would deserve to be banished, and a good thing to do. ...Because you know what ? You don't break what's good ! Please, can you fight the bad things in this country, instead of blaming a site who trusted you and wecame you ? But they are maybe your things , aren't they ? ...And please get rid of this big tree-trunk you sem to have in your eye, before "taking care" of the one(s) who just got a little straw in theirs. _I think Renderosity is absolutely right to ban everyone for whom thinking honestly & trying doing good and behaving good is a nonsense.(or the ones for whom it 's such sick fun and a big and silly sick vandal retarded pleasure to say: _"..We 're gonna break 'em, Man...Believe mah!" What kind of no-brains losers could be these guys, what kind of smile do you have, how canyou sleep at night? and why Renderosity, or anyone who has any "SENSE" would want to keep them ?(Question). That's not even a "punky" behavior, that's hate. Punks had better and healthier reasons to be against a certain numbers of things, and had righter targets, even beatnicks or Hippies had. _And most of us can figure out why these guys do that: It's simple, Dr. Watson: This site is too much "liberal" to their eyes and minds. Period. Not on the political sense, no, on the general sense of "freedom", or "Liberty"..liberties...if you know what I mean, it doesn't fit their ideal...Don't try to teach old monkeys how to make faces...!!! I let you , or should I say, because I can't hope more, the other ones meditate about that. I won't interfere anymore, even ifever ANYONE answers me. _ Someone prove me that I'm thinking wronly what I'm thinking. Just it. I won't spend my time any longer answering you you're welcome ! neither defending Renderosity EITHER, because it is what you want: A "virtual" clash or a riot, and the End of Renderosity. You won't get it, because I would be accused then to get some benefit of money from them, right ? And mainly too, because I like to do art better than talking, even if my artwork's not that good. No, I might be only interested by people who want to help people wanting keeping too many from staying asleep and be with them to awake them & tell them to stay vigilant against all the ugly things that some systems are supporting & are coping with some Nations guilty of crimes, under the mask of some noble "Honnorable" Cause for doing it, or keeping citizens in Insecurity and ignorance,TALKING non-stop about Insecurity or Terrorism on TV. of course, because Insecurity, it's them ! and now vigilant about this, coz' the only thing I know is ....these people that can't stand "people who are awaken and vigilant, peaceful, liking only freedom and Love" are here too, on Renderosity. These ones shouldn't be only banned from Renderosity. They should be banned more generally from the Universe itself. And they will. We can be patient. And still more generally, just know that we are billions more tahn you wanting peace & freedom, wanting a real stop to some actual "slavery" or "power of hypnotism", and we have many more & different stronger things if necessary than all of your tanks, helicopters, nuclear or chemical weapons, despite some Mr. D. (read last days New-YorkTimes Breaking News for more information, people begin to REALLY WAKE, or others tell openly their plans, which is a moron thing to do, isn't it ? Because, after one year, now people will endly WAKE, perceive and and face the real "terrorists" and their "strategeries" on this planet. Please don't answer this message. Don't want to loose more time with you or others like you. Nobody does. I wouldn't even read the answers anyway. _Just know that freedom is not going to disappear from USA. ...just because of previewable some provokations...small (localized) or bigger and public... _But you're going to say once again that kind of thing: ""I don't know what "the heck" yu're taling about talking about""...so, don't waste your energy: => If you're not satisfied of Renderosity, and maybe you have some good reasons, but if not satisfied, you have to do one thing: => just GO. _You won't break Renderosity, 'd rather choose some other prey right now, some more appropriate one(s). _I'm sorry for my good english, this time, but if at least you understand you're losing your energy for nothing, that's alright, Virus, bye ! The Trap didn't work. Sorry, virus...or others. ...just wasted a few moments of some others lives, how big is this sacrifice answering you ? Not much. But: How big is this behavior of yours's Victory ? _I repeat that I would NOT even read the answer, this time, Man. Sorry again. Your trick doesn't work. It's too old and too much known. An people will find something else than answering you after my little paper-work "article" here, I hope so ! Jean-Pierre Mayet. (liftan for Renderosity)

Thou shallst not CLASSIFY people" _When do we stop classifying humans in categories, why not making "lists" of humans by category or "races" ? Let our Political systems and "Responsible" ones_LOL ,as many as they are, do that. They always LOVE to do this...and they certainly did and still do it. Just let's ignore them, they are the biggest losers and the causes of decadence and were, are (and would be) the only responsible of the end of any Civilization (Their own ones too,which is a non-sense and the summit about Stupidity). I think the french joke ("Les Guignols de l'Info", french arrogant and so clever marionnetts on some french channel, execellent !)" "YOU watch too much TV !" could be one of the first step to escape the real Webcob and let the spider die ! (The famous George Orwell's BIG BROTHER")..anywhere it's gonna fall. _And you know what we should do ?...just "wait and see" them drowning in their Ocean of Stupidity, in a very soon future and forever,...for these two reasons: _1)_They are in the same boat (our planet) as the ones they fight, and the risk is REALLY for them to be the losers IS NOT EXCLUDED (less and less). _2)_You know...No one can't kill all birds... Is that okay or am I deliring ? Okay, in the short term, they seem to win. Let's see. But: Whew...!!! Let's please calm down about this one or that one Supremacy, and too much paranoia about them, because, until we prove that WE can stop this abheration process, if there were two humans left on earth, I suppose they'd try to kill each other. And this is this state of minds THAT HAS TO CHANGE INSIDE OURSELVES TOO, hasn't it to ? _OR EITHER, FORGET ALL, it would be REALLY "No future!" for no one on Earth, and maybe now you do get now what the 80's Punks tried to mean... Just let's calm down, please,...think it's the only thing we can do....because, after all, except getting "Bread" & "Circus Games", what do Citizens get, anyway and anywhere ? I'm not at all pessimistic, though...This is a very old story, and soon everyone on earth together will reject this crap out of this world, just because "The Future will be what humans will do out of it" Hubert Reeves ...Up to us staying vigilant ! Alfie (nickname: liftan)

Answering rcook: It seems pecfectly okay then. Thanks for answering: I didn't know that you did it. Sorry, I had never thought you did, and so, I never checked it. (it's relatively not my first goal, just thought of it once or twice after receiving these dozen "ban-decisions" emails, that's all..!). Thanks to you. Alfie (liftan)

No more words about all of this would be totally a definitive break for the ones who have got a real Amardillo in their pants. It was too much a commercial Advertising Campain for this or that guy. I don't care anymore. Even the banners on top of the page here are screaming: "FREE SPEECH".... It means: "Let the artists paint or even talk & argue, we're gonna make business over them ABOUT THAT TOO." ...might be wrong, at least I say that I can be so. but you know ? I'm like everybody else: I hate to be wrong all the time ! .....But, of course, let's say: I am still misunderstanding ALL, am I not ? Salut. Lost enough time. It's not even interesting...makes me think of these old MSN chat-rooms, where a dozen of them talk beetween themselves as "Bro,you-die?-then-I'll-die-too" kind of friends and look at you as if you had four heads if you just say "hello"... Let's go back creating images, landscapes and 3D banners if you want to type some more of 'em...don't care.... Bonsoir chez vous. Alfie (liftan for Renderosity)

Jack D. Kammerer, listen attentively: _Please don't call me "Poppi", okay ? ...Just because I don't call you ANY name. Thanks. Please don't think either you know all and ARE the whole thing here in USAoe even in Renderosity. YOU'D MAKE A HUGE MISTAKE. I understand you might have to protest against some a....h..s. ! tHAT'SONE THI8NG. Treating others with disdain and think you're the best: Wait a minute: You think you're the best; Okay. But don't make a show out of what you think. Ther's one word about what you seem to need, and it is maybe: Self-Humility But don't ever think somebody you don't know can be retarded. No "Poppi", okay ? I was one of the ones that was NOT one of your many "detractors". _Yes I'm french, I'm fifty-four, and you know what ? All the Culture you 've got here in USA and everything you can be, come from Western Europ: England, Spain, France, Portugal, Germany, Italy. _Without them, you US guys would be there. _So please maybe you'sd have to stop feeling so "superior": You're not ! _You could have been born a thin, small and squeletic individual either. And then you would shut the f... up. That's all. Please don't talk to me. I have realized too a long ago, that they all f....rs tried to make us become the legume that they wanted and that "Logical Song" is the das reality. I'm only one of the drops of water in the sea of people that will change this state of things. "They", I mean the "System-guys" of any political side often succeed to fuck other humans up if they can. I hope they didn't succeed doing that about you, just it. Don't email me. Bye. Alf. (liftan for Renderosity)

_Might...you know you should be glad that EVERYONE here is now talking about only you, and, at least it's always that, Damn it !!! ...Just wish people talked THAT MUCH about me and my art ! Is that HOW Salvador Dali and so many artists like Composer Maurice Ravel_considered anheretic in by classical musicians with his Bolero in the 30's... began to be famous ? Arguing and quarrels about if they did or did not do it good. That's a very American way to begin a "Stanley Kubrick" STYLE ODF CAREER... SO...: NO ONE TO GET MAD AT ! With the way they talk so passionate, I'm telling you one thing: IN FIVE YEARS, YOU'LL BE A RICH MAN ! (Well, here in USA, it's possible for artists, isn't it ???!!!...not too frequently in my country though, unless if you are ALREADY RICH !) ...And more...I'm jealous now, because you ARE famous on Renderosity...and I'm not ! (hi hi) ...Now let me go and sure get to admire some other artists galleries & artworks too ! Bon courage ! And let us know and soon please let's see MORE of your own stuff ! Thanks for your attention. Alfie (liftan for Renderosity)

_It just seems that everyone does what they can. _The only question might be: "Could I do better ?" ...And you are totally free too NOT to ask yourself this question. I like your nickname though. I'm french too and I think that wanting to be a "Vegetable" (if I transalte it) is showing some humour and derision. I put no value judgement on the rest , though I have to admit I find the contents of your artworks a little bit strange...don't understand what you want to mean by these 3D True-Type banners, and neither I do with the constant fixation on "Pegasus" Horsie. I would be interested_as maybe other members, you know, people have a tendency of accepting you more when they understand..., if you could tell a little bit more (I mean your own comments on your artworks) about your shape of mind about your creations, so that people won't blame or won't say anything nasty anymore about you or your works...maybe it could a good idea to do this, what do you think ? Alfie (liftan for renderosity)

I don't get it right, I think ! ? ...I thought MAC files had special extensions, like *.sit and *.bin, and so on.. _How couldn't you see what the extensions are when you unzipped what you downloaded with Winzip, Power Archiver or Winrar ? It is simple to verify if or not these files were MAC or PC am I wrong or am I not getting it ? Or either maybe MAC has *. cr2 and *.rsr extensions too ? Anyway I understand that you're right, there are really some problems with downloading files for Poser...and put them in the right folders is a kind of hassle, had this problem too.. I think we almost all want to skip to read tutorials or even learn more even about PC and MAC compatibilities and features...just because maybe we read and learn, because sometimes it's so boring (how many millions tutorials for PhotoShop ?!!! It's impossible ! If you don't skip some things,then you have no time left to DO your art, right ? Because it slows your art-production...I totally am like that too... And there are at the same time benefits and discumforts to act like this.(Not to "read the books": It's a choicE that has advantages and disadvantages. I don't always like it, I often make some mistakes, but even though I will go on missing some skills for a better knowledge a better technic too, but too much "training & learning" and not "doing" art, well, that is too much and not enough... I just say: "Arting" 's better than "reading". _You though can always see the files-extensions with ANY archiver when you have to extract compressed files with any archive extractor... _Don't panic, the use of Poser isn't that so easy learning, Man...D' you think everybody got it all ? They wouldn't be doing almost only these millions "would-be erotic" Barbie puppets with no expression, if it was easy, he he... Good luck and good courage ! Alfie (liftan for Renderosity)

What about sharing stuff in 2002 ? Happy New Year though...we'll see if the merchants are doing good in 2002...or will they be goofy this year...and the following ones ...??? Thanks, as for me, I will have a Happy Year. liftan (Alfie aka Jean-Pierre Mayet)