of course, spike too!!! travisb i said already and.. you too valandar, i didnt know your work the sea creature is awesome man!!! congrats:)

ok here i go!! in renderosity: travis b tbkoen teyon alexander dave crowe in the web: plecxus martin k gio khan taron matt clark marco carminatti pascal blanche bay and im sure i forgot a lot of them:)

very cool expression the part beside the mouth is very realistic! i think the nose needs a little more work.. what method are u using? polygons, nurbs...

it is beautiful. the specular channels perfect. the wine in the cup is precise and the green base of the cup is very pro. congratulations!!

that would be great!!! animation master is said to be the favourite software that pros use at home and ive seeing a lot of fantastic works done in it (www.navone.org for example). im thinking in buy it soon and id love to be in a A:M forum here!! great idea 4th :)

oh thats great!! it has bezier patches!!!! well i guess u have a great tool in ur hands micheleh, and for US$60!!! does it has animation tools aswell?

well lets start the discussion:) i guess its great for non organic modelling right? what about bumps and wrinkles in an old mans face? what are the tools available in the modeller? pov ray is a great renderer.. ive seen some outstanding images from it!

hey micheleh, i dont know much about moray-solid models... ive seen the pages works here at renderosity and they are great! but thats all i saw from moray.. could u give us a brief explanation of its method and maybe some screenshots and models??? loggie

hey eb. i think this low vs high poly is a very important discussion for learning purposes. it is important to know what people are doing and how they do and what they think about it. what i could learn from this thread is that there are times and places for low poly and high poly and in some meshes u can use high poly areas and low poly areas. this kind of question(low vs poly) reminds me the famous question: NURBS or POLYGONS and that one was answered this way: it depends of your project :) if all of us were using the same modelling approach, i tell you: it would be no fun at all :)

note: above, please read 5.000 - 10.000 polys as a good number of polys.

hey trav, as u know im into low poly right now. i spent my entire modeler life looking for details no matter what and ended up with thousands of polys. no problem at all. i really enjoy the results and everything. but then i started to pay attention in other people works and in my own work and i could see a lot of unnecessary poly all over the mesh and i decided to try a low poly mesh, just to see if i could..and i did! i guess the ideal mesh is the one with details and lots of polys in the right place and where you can save polys..save them! thats why i try to avoid bandsaw, for example, and build poly by poly, paying attention where i can save extra polys... and there is the animation issue.. i have a p3 850 with 512 ram and a gforce2mx card and a high res model really slow things in a very annoing way. my guess in that in most cases a good number for a complete character is around 5.000 1.000 polys with a lot of details (wrinkles, clothes, props, etc.). about hte tex maps, ive been testing it and a great way to avoid stretching is to create all the base tex with procedurals uv maps (try iris, its a standalone app to create procedural tex) and then only fine detail with image maps(veins, lips bumps, etc)and a lot of gradient maps with incidence angle.. but im not sure of anything i said before!!! im still learning all that 3d stuff so my oppinion might change 30 minutes later. thats what i think right now:) see ya.

true! great bump map in the wing! i really enjoy addin a lot of details in the model and a non textured model can kick ass, but i agree with u.

hey barret, ur #3 is a great character!!!! maybe ill try it some time ok?

hey wadus, u're one of the great people around here. i'm glad to be part of this forum too and i cant wait to see ur wips. i'm very happy to have found this site in the beginning of my learning. see ya