Look at the bottom of the Michael 2.0 and Victoria 2.0 pages at daz3d.com - there are LE versions that are free to download. "For a freely distributable Vicki 2 P4 cr2, download the Vicki 2 P4 LE installer below: The Vicki 2 P4 figure contains the Victoria 2 head morphs but not the body morphs." I've never tried these, so I don't know if they'll work for you - but it's worth a shot.

Thanks for the article Kate. But what happened to all the photos you were going to take? I guess that means Bryce 5 doesn't support multiple processors - yet another reason to use Vue. - n8

Looking forward to your article and photos Kate. I ordered the Mac version today (for the show price of $159!). I expect I'll receive it late next week.

Phil, Did you get any "special pricing"? - n8

Sounded that way to me, but who knows. The press release Lynn posted isn't on e-on's website yet though - so I guess I'll wait until tomorrow and see what happens. - n8

Re: drop I didn't know about the Shift+arrows to nudge - I should've tried that. I guess I don't really need that - besides it's fun throwing things up in the air and then dropping them :) Multiple Undo though - really would like that one. - n8

Awesome. Too bad the web site isn't updated yet. I want this special pricing :) - n8

It's not the free Vue 2 - it's a demo of Vue 4. Can't keep the scene (no save), but I'm sure it would be easy enough to remake. - n8

Heh. I guess that means I qualify to buy Vue 4 now :) Hopefully they announce the Mac version tomorrow... - n8

Yah. But I can see how one could get so caught up creating an image in Vue that they forget to save. :) Maybe add an auto-save backup feature to the wishlist forum. - n8

Thx. When I tried the Stones effect in the terrain editor, it immediately made me think of strange looking buildings. I'm not sure why there are dead trees and red water on the moon, but oh well.... this is just some playing around. Whenever I get the manual and that ever important Save feature, I'll start doing some real stuff (hopefully:).

Ouch indeed. :( I hope one day my WIP looks that good :). I like the shadows on the rocks... extra details.

Well I'm just a newbie demo user, but anyway: 1. Some toggle to reorient the side/front/top view to be relative to the current camera, or back the way it is now. Make positioning stuff easier on the brain. 2. Additional drop functions - normal drop, move way up and drop down (in 1 click), "drop" roots up to a cavern ceiling. 3. Multiple undo!!! 4. All those animation improvements (wind simulations, poser import) sound good. 5. A separate preview render button in the main camera window with its own settings. MightyPete - you can maximize the side/top/front views - just click the little box thing and choose maximize :). - n8

Heh. I thought I should atleast wait for MWSF before buying anymore Apple goodies. I know I'll get an iPod eventually - to replace my Rio 500 and free up some disk space on my iBook's poor little 10GB drive. I don't even think the price is unreasonable - my Rio 500 wasn't much less when I bought it 2 years ago. And we are talking 5GBs here - my entire collection is only 3.5GB. I was in the store with all this credit, and it was very tempting :). But I hope to get my VISA paid down first, hopefully this spring I'll get one. But it's pretty tempting, even now - to run out to the store and buy one. Esp. when I only have 120MB free on my HDD. If only I had waited a bit - the iBooks now ship with nice 15-20 GB drives. :) - n8

That's probably a good idea. I still haven't quite paid off my iBook, and it's been very tempting to buy an iPod and an AirPort 2.0 base station. Damn VISA company keeps upping my limit too. :) - n8