I was not intending any slight at all towards anyone.

Genesis is just a 3d product, nothing more or less. It has some nift features I'd like o explore in poser, as well as having some issues I dislike.

But its FREE. There no good reason I can see not to explore what there is to offer.

I'm also wondering if some of the genesis exclusive features now are possible now natively in poser itself as a result of the collaberation. Poser content might now have the ability to replicate some of the genesis features.

I'd be a fool not to grab something cool and free. If I choose to not use it, fine, but I won't look a gift horse in the mouth!

If its on an android cellphoen, there are numerous apps to screen and restrict calls coming in.

There was also a new flash update today.. that might help?

I just uploaded a pic with no problem. I DID have to fill in all fields, otherwise it errors out, and you need to resubmit it.

How we got such advanced software, but lost amazingly great utitlity application ideas like these is beyond me.

You CAN however run an amiga emulator, and with the picasso board emulation, use high res hi color deluxe paint on the pc.

I LOVED deluxe video though, and its integration with deluxe paint and music.

I recall using tweening in the first animation app I ever used back on my atari 800, circa 1985.

I was just telling my wife, that we'd lost a lot of the really innovative programs on earlier systems on today's advanced tech computers.

Where is something like deluxe paint, deluxe video, or deluxe music?

Simple consumer level applications for drawing, animating and creating music, but with today's horsepower to output pro level stuff.

Poser is actually kind of a throwback to those old "fun" creative programming days.

Would you like me to model the car, and render it out for you as well?

No. Poser does not have any uv map manipulation tools at all.

Quote - You all are certainly free to express your opinions and I am not hinting otherwise...but if the original model was rigged with the arms at 45 then nothing would have to be "accounted for", you are modeling around the default stance...45 degrees. Because some might have a different opinion doesn't mean they don't want to "learn the tools available", maybe they are thinking outside the box and trying to push development.

Suggestions and new thoughts either fail or prosper, but to try something new shouldn't be lessened becase it's new. imo

If it WAS actually new. Girl was released how many years ago now, 3-5? I would say using the new falloff zones on a standard figure would actually be more "new experimentation" then revisiting something that many pointed out as a technique which created more problems then it solved.

Or creating new unique grouping to enhance posability. No one for instance has ever released a figure with dual palm groups so hands could be curled, as in real life.

Everyone was raving about how well antonia's bending was. I know she bends a hell of a lot better than I do.. LOL!

You also have to consider what the final goal of a render is. 90% of the time, figures are clothed in some fashion, and if they are, bending in many joints becomes a non issue, because you can't see them anyway.

Honestly? The reason people model figures in a T position is to make clothing and accessories easier. You have to also consider morph creation as well. Trying to do things like that with a non standard posed mesh is a huge pain in the rump.

Thats why all video game models are also modeled in a T pose.

With the rigging advanced features we have now and proper grouping, theres no good reason why you can't get a model to pose well, other than not wanting to learn the tools we already have available.

Kim Goosens did something similar with Girl. The problem is, its a nightmare to make clothing for, because sleevesm pant legs and shoes all need to be modelled rotated to accomodate the default figure obj.

Many people refused to even make clothing for her as a result, because it was twice the amount of work.

Report the copyright violations to rendo, and watch how fast the products vanish.

People steal from othe rpeople all the time and get away with it. If this bothers you, why don't you alo just rob people like they do?

You can't ask for input from people and then just decide you don't like their opinions.

People told you that what you wanted to do was illegal. It still is.

If you want to do it though, go right ahead, no one is stopping you from breaking the law.

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