Quote - Simon, new Nvidia releases tend to be better than the previous, so you probably ought to update it. Can't hurt, you can always go back easily enough.

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Hey Mike... The driver goes with the OS and not the app used.  So he would be using the 64 bit.

Don,
That's what I would have thought too, but we still get the 32 bit dll's in there with the 64 bit install. I just assumed the 32 bit apps were using the 32 bit dll's. Maybe that's the problem, that Poser is trying to use it, it does list tfhe 32 bit dll in the error message. Then again, I really don't know how much control apps have over the OS usage of OpenGL, so I really couldn't say.

Thats really odd Mike.  What error are you referring to?

Don

Hey Mike... The driver goes with the OS and not the app used.  So he would be using the 64 bit.

Don

Your speed should return to normal.  MP is the Market Place... lol (sorry bout that)  The Vista upgrade is one of the cuprits for sure but I think the settings I gave you should fix all of that stuff :)

Don

Poser and Poser Pro are all relative path now and that will slow down your texture loading and texture loading when rendering.  Especially if you are loading older .pz3 files.  Also there were some changes to OpenGL implementation I think so you need to set that up properly.  Settings are as follows:  In render settings / Preview Tab use OpenGL / Hardware accumulation on /  Transperency Actual on / Enhanced Multilayer Transperency on /  Texture display 1024.

Another issue I noticed yesterday was the new Vista and Office updates effected Poser.  Outlook can't be running on my system if I'm using Poser now.  I have Business Contact Manager installed in Outlook and that may be the culprit because it and Poser use the 2005 C++ runtime.  On Vista you want to turn off UAC(user account control). You can find UAC in the Control Panel / User Accounts.  Also run Poser as adminstrator. This can be done by right clicking on your Poser icon and choose "Run as Administrator, or go into the properties / compatability tab / and check run as administrator. The latter will cause Poser to always run that way.

There are a couple of utilities out there that will go through your runtime and set everything to relative path for you. Check in the MP for those. Also in General Preferences / misc tab /  UNcheck file compression and UNcheck external binary morphs and just below that confirm that your temp file path is correct. 

Hope that helps,

Don

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Two words:

nvoglv32.dll
175.19

I'm running Vista 64 too but I have a Nvidia Quadro FX 1700, I searched for that file and I don't have it. I do have a 64 one:

Yup me too for 64 bit.

My OpenGL drivers are inside a 169.96 folder. You mention your driver is 175.19. Is that a newer driver?

Go to Nvidia to see if theres a later driver for your card as it's different than mine.

Don

Well it's been a few days and Poser Pro is rock solid.  It was an OpenGL issue. The following settings fixed it for me: 

In render settings / Preview Tab use OpenGL / Hardware accumulation on /  Transperency Actual on / Enhanced Multilayer Transperency on /  Texzture display 1024

Don

Quote - > Quote - Two words:

nvoglv32.dll
175.19

I'm running Vista 64 too but I have a Nvidia Quadro FX 1700, I searched for that file and I don't have it. I do have a 64 one:

Yup me too for 64 bit.

Quote - I thought Poser Pro meant that it came with Pro content finally.  Or at least had modo bundled with it.

It has Pro content with special low poly count figures.  Modo is a complete 3D solution and NOT owned by SM.

Don

Quote - *The high polygon count isn't an issue unless your doing animations. *

Actually, it's a major issue if you want to create really large scenes with lots of figures. It's truly amazing to experience how a 64 bit system and 8 gigs of RAM can expand your horizons--not that large scenes are the goal of every Poser user.

At least large scenes are an option in Vue 6 Infinte 64bit, though you have to import the Poser elements piecemeal.

Most scenes with many characters wouldn't need hi-res so Poser Pro gave us some low res characters for that.  There are no doubt circumstances where the poly count matters and maybe that means Poser characters aren't your answer. 

Edit: Poser Pro isn't for everyone but it's nice to have choices :)

Don

Quote - The gamma correction is worthless to me because I render in Vue. As for the Lightwave  plugin, it might be  worth $200, at least until Vue 8 introduces improved indoor GI. Unfortunately, the 32 bit Fusion plugin limits the size of scenes you'd be able to render and high end programs generally don't like the heavy Poser polygon load. 

Sounds like you have your needs covered with Vue.  The Fusion plugins were created to get Poser characters into a highend app so most of the modeling and rendering would be done there.  The high polygon count isn't an issue unless your doing animations. Pro may not be for you but that doesn't mean others won't find it very useful.

Don

Quote - Cinema 4d, Maya, XSI, 3D Studio Max and Lightwave all have 64bit versions. I'm not sure what other programs the Fusion plugin works with. 

I have a 32bit and 64bit version of Lightwave on a dual boot system. Unfortunately, I don't have a high-speed Internet connection. Is the side-grade, discounted version of Poser Pro only available as a download?

There's no way in hell I'm paying $500 for the minimal advantages over Poser 7, which I already own.  

Don't know how it's available but your probably right (download only).  DL it at a friends or work and burn to DVD.  If time is of value to you and you don't want to gamma correct in post then it's certainly worth while.  The LW plugin alone is worth it if you plan on using Poser in LW that is.

Don

Quote - I bought a whole new 64 bit computer, built to my specifications partly because of Poser Pro. I wanted to be able to use some of the stuff that wouldn't work on my 32 bit system.

I can almost use it. Mike3, Steph petite, mil girls/boys/baby and animals all work fine. Victoria 3 is ok as long as I don't add any morphs. Same with Aiko 3 and Hiro.

But try to use Vic 4? Crash. Aiko 4? Crash. G2 figures? Crash. Ok, so I'll use P7 for those. But what gets me a bit upset is when I querried Smith Micro about the problems with Vic and Aiko 4 the only answer I get is that the problem is in the Daz figures and to take it up with them. Daz says there's nothing wrong with their figures and the problem is with Poser.

I really don't like companies that try to shove their problems elsewhere.

Read this:  http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2749419

Hmmmmm Poser Pro?  For me the much faster render times and gamma correction make it worthwhile for $199 side grade from 7. 

RE: Face_Off and VSS are concerned. Well Face_Off was written a long time ago Poser 5 I believe and has been slightly modified for 7 and runs on Pro.  Turn off gamma in render settings and it's exactly the same as in 7.  VSS is a script for copying nodes en mass and works the same on Pro as 7 also. 

Now for the new Fusion plugins.  Developed by Reiss Studios and previously called Body Studio is now Poser Fusion.  The plugins were due for an update to accomodate Max 9 / 2008 when a deal must have been struck with Reiss and e-Frontier.  Reiss sold Body Studio for $199 - $299 each for Max, Maya etc.  Now SM includes them all in the $199 sidegrade.  Such a deal.  How good are they? Compared to what?  Lets face it, like it or not Poser isn't a must have for most users of these highend 3D apps.    I'm not knocking Poser or it's user base here. It's just a different user than most so-called highend apps. 

Now we have the workflow issue.  Max 9 and 2008 come with both 32 and 64 bit.  Some highend apps still havn't gone 64 bit yet.  I have Max 2008 both 32 and 64 bit. Why you ask?  Well turns out that lots of Max plugins don't suport 64 yet, it takes a while.  So work flow is simple enough for me. If I want a poser figure in Max I import to 32 bit and no problems.

What should and shouldn't be called Pro is certainly up for debate.  Almost any savy puter user today knows you can't believe evrything you read... LOL  Lots of apps out there are Pro, Ultimate etc. but that don't make it so.  As always read all you can about a product and make an informed decision.  If there isn't enough data then wait until there is.

In summary, Poser is a product for a niche market.  Some of this market wants more realistic renders and exports thier figures to an app with more Pro features and a better render engine.  Poser Pro now does this and pretty well I think.  Is Poserr Pro just for so called pro's? No.  Pro's aren't going to use Posers renderer, but we will, and a 40% speed increase isn't anything to sneeze at.  Gamma correction was sorely needed and the fact is in the Poser arena you have as many complaining about it as praising it... LOL  Why don't my scenes lok like they used to they cry.  Well turn off gamma or relight your scene.... sheeeesh  Gamma does a lot more than make things brighter btw.

My 2 cents :)

Don

Quote - This is something I'm keeping in mind while reading this thread.  I will be getting a system with Win Vista Premium 32bit, and will have nVidia graphics in it so keeping my fingers crossed - it would be a gaming system. 

The only thing I'm keeping in mind also is to turn off UAC and set it as Run as Administrator, something I wouldn't dream of doing with WinXP.

So, once I get it, I will certainly keep viewing this thread for info.

Good luck on the new puter, I'm sure it will be fine. Nvidia cards are great, Poser is just really finiky I think.

Don

Quote - Quote:Try putting a poser.exe file in the folder where your external runtime resides. Example:
E:/MySavedRuntime/Poser.exe
E:/MySavedRuntime/Runtime

Your external runtime can't be in a drive root dir.

Thanks for the help.I have tried all of the above and still no luck.It adds the folder ExtRuntime but the folder is empty when opened with no way to add the individual folders contained.
The path i have is,C:/ExtRuntime/Runtime
The PC is running Vista 32 bit like i say all was well untill the latest service release.

Blue

I wonder if this isn't a Vista issue? If you have another drive try the same dir structure on it and see what happens. Also you did put a copy of Poser.exe in your C:/ExtRuntime dir? You don't need a copy of the real Poser.exe just open notepad and then save the blank document as Poser.exe :)

Don