Yeah, that's why I was asking about method of applying morphs for Dawn... us DAZ Studio users have been spoiled by the versatility of Genesis.

The bottom line really is whether or not Dawn is 'just' a fancy V4 or something much more e.g. could it match the versatility of Genesis, or is that too much to hope for?

(I understand that might sound a bit weird to folk that haven't used Genesis, but it will make perfect sense to people that do use Genesis - kattey touched on it too)

Thanks, the extra comments helped me 'see' better - i think I'm simply not used to the type of fine detail that G2 should be able to deliver... so maybe it's time for me to put her through her paces :biggrin:

I'm sure you're absolutely right, I'm in no way an expert.

We'll know for sure when G2M gets released and can directly compare the male and female meshes, rather than me looking at it and thinking "I bet I could make a good male character out of that", hehehe.

Yeah, I was originally back in the thread to ask when we can see some test renders of Dawn.

Dawn, where are you?  You can't still be putting your makeup on... can you?

I go where i can get what I need - not as principled as some maybe, but the fact I buy what I use is good enough for my conscience  ;)

But I'm a DAZ Studio user that uses Genesis as my main workhorse, so would be pretty inconvenient to shoot myself in the foot just to get the moral high ground, LOL

Ah, good point that i should've mentioned... Genesis 2 Female has some interesting changes to the surfaces formats, so you need to be using DAZ Studio 4.6+ to get the best out of it.  I don't think V6 textures will work in DAZ Studio 4.5 (but the morphs will still work).

G2F and Genesis sit fine together, the same way you can have V4 sitting in your runtime too - one does not replace the other.

V6 is a character for Genesis 2 Female the same way all the Generation 5's are characters for Genesis.  From what I've seen of the G2F mesh, no reason why the male equivalent could not use that very same mesh, so to split them apart does look like a commercial decision to increase revenue rather than due to constraints of the technology.

Don't get me wrong, there are advantages to the G2 mesh, mostly the extra polygons that will enable better facial expressions and scope for more realism to the joints.

V6 is a perfectly plausible purchase to make so long as you know what it is you're buying into... and that IMHO is where DAZ dropped the ball big time - slap dash release with insufficient preview information, no attempt to manage expectation, and failure to clarify fact from rumour as the thought of forking out a whole load of cash for no apparent reason has understandably put a lot of customers' backs up.

...possibly a panic response to the Dawn announcement (compared to other releases, G2F+V6 seems like such a rush job lacking proper planning), or maybe I'm simply reading too much into the timing of this week's events.

G2Female is a different mesh than G1, so there is no direct cross-compatability between them out of the box, and yes it's gender specific albeit with zero improvement to genital representation.  Additionally, you cannot use V4 textures by default but can buy an add-on product that makes this possible.

G2Female uses DSON to get into Poser (sorry, I don't actually use Poser myself, so I don't know if the improvements claimed make a big difference or not)

G2V6 is still an improvement over the typical G1 female character, but is by no means a replacement.  If you don't do pin-up art and/or fantasy scenes with sacntily clad females, might be worth waiting until it's in the bargain bucket.

Dimension3D is working on an updated/new version of GenX and Sickleyield is working on an updated/new version of SRMS, so once these good folk do their thing, G2Female will become a whole lot better - including ability to apply G2 clothing and shapes to G1 (at least that's what they're trying to achieve at time of writing, don't know how successful the results will turn out to be, but should be ok).

As things stand, G2Female+V6 is a human female, not the blank canvas G1 is that can be made into any bipedal character (male, female, monster, alien, or anything in between).  G2 will give great results for female characters so long as one is prepared to pay for the new content that will be coming out for it.

For what it's worth, I've bought V6, but G1 will still be the workhorse for my characters in general.  I won't be buying everything that comes out for G2V6, but only the items I will use for definite.  I am not buying unnecessary items just to be a cash cow to DAZ or anybody else, but I do some pin-up art, so V6 does have its uses to me.

No, no... there are DAZ Studio users here too, but our questions maybe gettin' lost among all the hootin' and a hollerin'  LOL

Quote - Hi, I'm a DAZ Studio user, and been using Genesis pretty much exclusively since it was released and have gotten comfortable with its morph-mixing abilities.

How will Dawn handle morphs... would it be better to think of morphs more along the lines of V4 rather than Genesis, vice-versa, or would it be something else that hasn't been done yet?

 

Thanks,

Jabba101

Hi, I'm a DAZ Studio user, and been using Genesis pretty much exclusively since it was released and have gotten comfortable with its morph-mixing abilities.

How will Dawn handle morphs... would it be better to think of morphs more along the lines of V4 rather than Genesis, vice-versa, or would it be something else that hasn't been done yet?

Thanks,

Jabba101

I think I'm fairly clued-up on Genesis stuff, and I can't think of any that are free.  They can take a while to set up, so people have a tendency to want some sort of return for all their hard work.

No worries, I've been pimping it everywhere I went today, LOL

BTW, I'm not in any way connected with the vendor/PA, but a good uptake should mean better 'goodies' in the future, which will be good for all of us  ;)

If you click on "file" in the menu bar, there should be a 'send to DAZStudio' just above the option to quit program.

Hi, yes it's SSS for 4.6 but requires an add-on purchase from DAZ store.

Not sure if we're allowed to post links to another store, so I better not, but you'd also need to buy the 'Subsurface Gummy & Plastic Shaders' in the DAZ Store (currently at a great offer price)

There's also 'Subsurface Toon Shaders' for SSS that's also on offer - anybody using DAZ Studio from enthusiast upwards would find them very useful.  The PA doing the shaders has also confirmed he's working on doing a realistic SSS pack too, which will eventually hit the store when he's got them done (I don't know exactly how close they are to release, by they'll definately be another 'must have' for me).

Hell yeah, couldn't have done this in earlier versions of DAZ Studio  :)