A definate addition I must have... eg and already have a few ideas for it

ok hold the phone you mean Bil paying Steve for person A's product since Steve transformed it to work on Bill's PC? or Bill paying Person A? Because for bill to use that product he would still need to buy it off Person A. Not Steve ... though if person A allows the redistribution of his product by steve and gives steve the ok to profit.... steve may charge the conversion fee but not the actual product fee. As that fee would have to go towards person a for it to be legal.

April no flame intended but think of what you said for one second, if I were to buy Michael 2 from Daz3d and then give or sell off the milman.obj as lets say milman.3ds .. I reformatted the obj into a 3ds file... therefore I modified it to allow it to be ran under 3d Max with no use of hadware plug-in ... I then give or sell it to someone running version 2 which allows 3ds files but not obj files and to my knowledge there is no plugin available for version 2. I just broke Daz3D/Zygote's copywrite infringement policy. Therefore I am in the wrong ... then the person who wanted it but couldn't use it so they didn't buy it knowing that it is Millenium Mike's geometry file, accepted goods knowingly and hence stole it from Daz3D/Zygote with me middle manning the situation. In a normal court of law within the United States, which Daz would be following due to it being an american company, american laws would be followed. Which means that both me and the person knowingly accepting it would be liable for whatever the judge deemed punishment, me for trafficing and he for accepting the end product through unpaid means. At least that is how I am seeing it. Dan

I would say that both steve and bill would be for the following reason. Steve tansfered a copywrited product to another user for free (even though it was in a different format he still transfered the product) Bill knowingly accepted the product from Steve, hence incriminating himself by knowing that it was a product someone made to sell and recieved it by means not acceptible to Person A, else Person A would of done the switch over on their own.

Well if you think of it..... many "Artists" devise their images from real world physical aspects.... Ex. Da Vinci, one of the world's greatest engineers and artists of his time, IMHO, painted the Mona Lisa from an actual person. In essence to couches and such ... the "Arranging a room" is a form of art as it is an expression of the artist. As to the arts of painting, sculpting, etc... yes it is very different but is still a form of art as to it expresses the emotions, thoughts, etc.. of the creator in a graphical/pictorial manner.

So in my opinion, is digital graphics a form of art and are we that make these graphics artists. I would have to say yes to both. I'm not sure how most people design their images, but I try to put my heart and soul into the image as I did with my latest image in my gallery (Titled "Sadness") That image made me depressed while I was making it.

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Mobius effect is the wireframed objects in Renders. Drax mentioned a possible solution using UVmapper.

Irene do you have the upgrade to 4.03 or pro pack? I currently have poser 4.03 w/o pro pack and it worked fine

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So far My best work is this one, at least I say. And all but the text is render alone using poser.

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Have you checked out PoserFactory? they have a few oriental cloths and I know one is a kung fu uniform. Its for the male but may be able to be scaled down to fit the female. DBoura With the past behind me and the future unknown... I travel forth to tempt thy fates of the new and heed the warnings of old.

Thank you all I will look at those and most likely purchase Nendo and try out Anim8or. I new about Magnets but found them pretty tricky LOL. Same with waves and Deformers. Again Thanks for the help. DBoura With the past behind me and the future unknown... I travel forth to tempt thy fates of the new and heed the warnings of old.