Djeser, like Davy, i think it was good you opened this thread. For me, joining Renderosity changed quite a bit in my creative life. I have seen so much beautiful work and talented people, and i feel very close to some of them, even if i never saw them or talked to them in person. I also felt until recently, that this is one of the nicest places i've seen on the net, with wonderful, supportive people. I still think so, altough i now realise how easily one can abuse this place to play his twisted games of jealousy and need for attention. I agree with Guitta that ignoring those persons is the best way of dealing with them. And RDS, please come back! :) There is another subject that was raised here, that of Renderosity's vulnerable ranking system. I totaly agree with Pmermino and YL. It is true that if you do good art work you will be noticed anyway, but we cannot ignore the fact that many visitors to Renderosity look at the "Best ranking" as a way of sorting out good works. Those visitors will probably miss the majority of the finest images ever posted here. So, until Renderosity changes the ranknig system, i will follow Patrick, YL and many others here and disable ranking for my images.

Congratulations Patrick! That's a beautiful image you did! Congartulations also for Raffyraffy for a wonderful work. I also loved "Sound waves" by Agiel for its original concept. (and humor). I wish i could vote for each one of the images...An incredible water-work was done by all the participants. That was a tough competition indeed!

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This is one of the most interesting Vue tutorials i have seen. Maybe not the "do this do that" kind, but a deep and enriching exploration of the program's light system. Great work Charles, thanks for sharing your knowledge!

Thanks Xoconostle :)

I just read Gebe's last post and she says what i tried to say in less words and better coherence...:)

First of all i would like to apologize again to anyone who was offended by anything i said. English does not come naturaly to me, i am translating from my own language, and i guess it sounds a bit harsh to some. I do not mean to offend, and i respect all that has been said here, wether i agree with it or not. I'll try to refer to that Vue CD issue from my own personal point of vue: at the time, E-on asked me to include some of my models in the objects folder on the CD. One of those objects for example was the Angel fish (Scalar). Since then i have seen it in many many images here, and i am very happy to see it used, sometimes in wonderful images. I never asked for credits on this one, because nowhere is it written that i am the modeler of that object. Since e-on included some of my images on the examples CD, they asked me to add the scenes too. my understanding was that those scenes will serve Vue begginers as learning tools. Maybe i was naive, but i never thought people will use parts of those scenes for their own images. Now, if somebody takes an object or two, that's fine with me. But the images i talked about in my previous post were done by taking virtualy the whole scene, with some minor changes. I am not talking law here, i am not talking rules, i am just talking common sense. I mean, my name is clearly written on these images and scenes! Why on earth would somebody want to do that? It looks to me like disregard for the original artist's feelings. So all i am saying is, no matter what the law says, there is a minimum of ethical integrity that we all need to use...

Spit, english is not my native tongue, and i am truly sorry if i sounded authoritarian to you. I speak only for myself, i never claimed to represent anyone else but myself. I think i have the right to express my opinion. And i sincerely believe that giving credits is important, and that it bothers me that some people ignore that issue. That's all. About the second part of your argument, well, wether it was wise to give E-on my scenes is realy my own dillema. But that doesn't mean people can take somebody elses work and claim it is their own. I am sorry, but i don't see your point here.

I think some distinctions should be made here. I never claimed not crediting is "illegal". I was merely refering to the ethical side of it. 3D as a form of art is relatively new, and as such poses new ethical questions. I absolutely do not agree with the "brushes and paint" alegory. A Vue artist's brushes and paint are the program itself and its tools. A car one adds to its render is not tool, it is a complete model, a finished work done by somebody else. Now i know that many times it is hard to find out who did it, and that sometimes it is simply impossible to give the right credit. But i do insist that whenever possible, a credit should be given. Now what Gebe mentioned is a far more serious issue. Those scenes on the Vue CD are there as examples for exploration and study. I personally discovered at least 3 images at the gallery which where not much more than my own scenes from that CD, a little modified, different camera angle, some objects added or deleted, etc.. This is pure violation of copyright law. No one would like to see his/her works of art displayed under somebody else's name. I believe this was done with no bad intentions, but it simply should not be done, and such images should be removed by the administrators.

I go for #3

Hey Steve, you shouldn't be so surprised :) That image is simply fantastic. It got # 1 because that's the place it should be in! Keep on doing such great work. eran

Congratulations Sacada. Loved your Banner!

Thanks to you all :) I am realy excited about this. It's certainly not something that happens very often :)

I can't make up my mind between #5 and #7. #5 is striking. But #7 is more classic Vue. OK #7 it is!

Thanks My friend. I'll do just that.