I am joining Toby (Kymarto) and Marion (Kansas) here, FE is my first love,I learned the trade with it... and I keep a soft "spot" for it....And sometimes I am really in the mood for FE, it is very intuitive compared to UF. But at this very momnet 90% of my "fractalling hours" go to UF. Eveline

I would be happy to be able to turn off the voting button... And Matt, I think you are basically right about the benefits of less uploads, but very optimistic about the results;-))))))) Have a great Sunday all, Eveline

Attached Link: http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins-archive/index.shtml

My research has taken me a bit further: I do not know what happened to Notting Hill, but I found DancerDNA was a a "brainchild" of Richard Hawkins ( the Blind Watchmaker, one of the first BioMorph proggies...)The original program or precursor of DDNA was called Cybertation. Link is for the archives of the R. Dawsons website... All software download links do not work, most of them go to Notting Hill nad Computerartworks anyway......I wonder what happened? If you are going to pusue this further, I would appreciate us keeping contact...Are you a programmer? Or are you only interested in the forms that these proggies can generate? My interest is the music/fractals aspect...

Today probs seem to be fixed,also I was able to upload again... maybe they have done some upgrading on the DataBase? Eveline

It seems to work today! I don't know why, but everytings fine now:-)))) Could be my firewall, I just updated to the new version...(???) Although I did not change any settings.

I have been doing searches for OA, and Latham's work these past days.. ( funny is it not?) The program that animated these creatures to music was callled Dancer DNA, it has completely vanishe dfrom the net...The company was called Notting Hill software, based in the UK...Vanished also! The game from the OA developers was called Evolva....Guess what????? VAnished also!!! Looks like Organic Art has gone underground;-)))) Anybody here knows what happened? I still have an old demo version of Dancer DNA....but unfortunately no key;-(((( Evolva is still around ont the P2P networks....

Attached Link: Inner Traveler

,,,Pssss! Those who do not like the hot 20: Innertravel does NOT have one...Eveline

Applause!!!!!!!!!* Bravo Matt, for your honesty! I would not have dared to speak out as clearly as you just did, but I agree from the bottom of my heart! Eveline

Dear Keith, I honestly like you and your work very much... I never ever voted for any image of you....just because voting does not mean anything for me...honestly, I do not care! I do not need a voting contest to see the value of people, nor of their art...I have other criteria, and I trust them much more than any voting system! I think many artists here are both very nice people and good artists, and have never had a single item in the hot twenty....Eveline

I agree with Nick here that more people should vote...I have not time enough to look at all the uploads, so I often only look at my favorite artists, and sometimes I do not even get around to that...If a see an images I find especially interesting, I comment, and try to give my real and heartfelt impression....Sometimes this takes a lot of time...Often I simply FORGET to vote, as simple as that....Sorry about that, folks! I never do the V thing....I do not like it when people put it in their commnets of my work either....But I am sure that the artists I like most know that I love their work, and I guess that is what matters to me....Eveline

Dear Linda, I am with Andreas here, just slow down, girl:-))))) Love, Eveline

Yeah me too, only wine for me please:-)

Might be your definition for scolding comes from another dictionary than mine...Or my definition about expressing myself? LOL...I come from a teachers family, sorry;-))) I promise to go back to "non-scolding" mode! Eveline

Mindy: You the only one that can tell people what to do or not on this forum???? People get enough room to iterate any place else, so let me be, and say what is important to ME .....Evie

Matt: Hahahah! Got it! Bravo! But.....;-))))) Have a nice life ,as I am sure you have!) A vitual hug for you! Eveline