Well thanks for the comments GUYS I really appreciate them. Very interesting and somewhat depressing that the ladies in the crowd have not posted any thoughts.... hummmm. Come on ladies... we can take it. Maybe they are just to busy laughing at our reality :) trying to figure out how to roll back the odometer

FINALLY... 4050 guy has someone to identify with! Shared memories without having to answer... 'Who's Peter, Paul and Mary?' Awesome job Trav... AGAIN discovered.. can't slip even a leg in the old Navy dress blues anymore.. much less button them... and almost had to call the emergency squad to get me out of the jumper

Paul... tell your wife I also have a pair of shoes in my closet that I bought when Shania Twain was 4... sigh Her special is on the tube now... sigh again

picnic.... I'm with Jack.. I love freckles... they would be great on the lower one. Steve... don't ever think 'cause you are relatively new that we don't value your input... fresh uncluttered thoughts are always welcome. Your comments matter as much as anyone's :-) ... and I agree, the texture change does reflect a diff. emotion about her. Bill BBay.com

I went... explored... awesome work Jen... really transmits your feelings

Um... WOW!...the attention to detail is stupenderiffic... er ..extremely cool. Will try it immediately! Thanks for making it available. Bill BBay.com

Oooo....my favorite teacher ;) ... and how come exchange students didn't look like that 30 years ago?... sigh... Super job Jack! Bill BBay.com

If after all that work my "friend" said it doesn't look like her... I'd get a new "friend"... nice job, regardless... pick someone who doesn't need a dog collar.

Nice job Darrin... This is really a great image. I love the lighting and shadows, and using Trav's float too.. coolness. Is the bun hair something new? If so I missed that one. Snorkle hummmm.... :-) Bill BBay.com

See Legume... it took so long to type my reply... you answered before I finished. I remembered you and a bunch of us having the same problem months ago. :-) Bill (one finger typing wizard.. NOT) BBay.com

Gary, What you are describing has happened to me with both P3 and P4 over the last year or so. It crashes, you reboot, and reboot and whenever you try to get Poser to run, it flashes briefly on the screen... but does not open. This happened with P3, P3patched, and now P4. It happened ALOT in Win95, much less often with Win98. I'm afraid the only 'FIX', in my case was a fresh install of Poser. It appears that at times the program .rsr gets corrupted, so many of us do a fresh reinstall... and as SOON as it's working again... copy the Poser.rsr to another area.. for safe keeping. I also copy the application ( .exe ) and data ( .dta ) as well... just for the heck of it. Then, the next time it crashes... I just copy the .rsr back and replace the original. Sorry... but that's the only way I'm aware of to correct the problem. If anybody else has ideas... I've been watching for it for a year or so on this board... but haven't seen one yet! Good Luck Bill BBay.com

Let's put it this way... there is no post work on the hair in this image! :-)

Man... now you've done it! Do you have any idea what damage is going to be done to troops with the flying Bovi-dragon and the Paci-dragon! You are a sick puppy... :D

Must be I was the second vote... it came up to 50% animals, 50% ... um... something else... damn memory.. had it when I started this message... but lost it :)

Trav, Wonder why they are using .exe for zip files the last couple times... hummm yet the tmap is a zip. I'd ask them... but have never received ANY email from them though I added myself to their list 4 times.. guess they hate me.... and a customer to boot! Oh well Bill BBay.com