Ah, so glad I found this thread and so appreciative of the input .  I do like Bryce for some things, but as I'm thinking about downloading the trial version of  Vue 6 Esprit.

I remember when I tried a trial verson of Bryce y-e-a-r-s ago and it was way too advanced for me.  Then when Corel owned it, I purchased it at a much lower price.  Than I said I would never want to do human models so Poser was of no interete, but now I'm using DAZ Studio, and loving 3D, Funny how time changes things. I guess we never lose the quest for the perfect software(s).