First, a big tits up to stahlratte and that old hung fairie posted above!! I think I saw her buzzing around at the mall yesterday, she was looking for a new bra like I was, lol! I never can understand this fascination with big boobs, I'm sick of mine and they're only medium size, anyone here is very welcome to carry them around for a while and see how it feels to have a pair yourself! Gets to be a real pain in the neck and back sometimes, and I'd feel sorry for some of these Vickie's and such with big gongs because they'd all be so hunched over or be having to throw them over their shoulder by the time they got past middle age! Anyways, at least I feel better. I finally got a new bra that fits and holds and now I can laugh all I want without pop outs, lol!!

Thanks for replying Karen. I didnt know that till now, glad to see that.

Yes, exactly seeing it like I'm saying it..uummph!! Hmmmmppph!!!??? ..mmnnng!...mnnnng!!...nnnnnnnng!!!

Oh, NO, now there's two XENOPHONZES! Get set for a heavy load of membership increases now! There's about to be ten thousand people here at once, can this forum handle that kind of immigration??! ******************************************************** Hopefully they read fast and leave before this place locks up under the weight of the internet fury of XENOPHONZ fan mayhem!!

Nudes are abundantly rampant.
A well done nude is rare indeed. I think too many people think slapping up a naked figure is art.
If it has to be naked, it should have some quality of life and substance and style to it, nevermind a pose worth artistic merit.
As for the violence, perhaps it is a form of venting or as suggested, getting attention by being gross. Onlookers are always fascinated by ugly, absurd and grotesque for some reason, that's why we have traffic jams when people slow down to look at victims in accidents.
Is that for real or what?
I will suggest that art doesn't have to be naked to be absurd, there's some pretty disgusting clothed figures being extremely naughty hereabouts too.

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Oops, my mistake. They decided that a 'make art' button would be too simple and obvious so they tried to fool us by calling it by a different name; but most people figured out soon enough that it was that magic 'render' button..

Since this discussion is basically over, may I add a tiny tid bit? Can we have a non violence flag too? I never could understand why people will fight tooth and nail against something as beautiful as the naked body and yet they have no problem with 'fighting tooth and nail.' Silly how even some of my friends allow their children to watch horror movies and the most violent shows but as soon as a pair of boobs hits the screen all hell breaks loose. Vampire movies are okay, as long as they are just sucking blood and dismembering folks, but some vampirella queeny drops her drape and those kids get banned from watching it further! What wonderful priorities. So hey, can we have an anime/provocative schoolgirl showing off her cute undies filter too? Just saw one of those on a banner ad and it was a lot sleazier than any nude I've seen in some time..but hey, she's wearing clothes so I guess that's okay..

"does it come with the ever elusive ''MAKE ART'' button?" What, yours doesn't already? Strange, mine does, in fact, I've had that button since poser 3.

You should ask this in the "Poser Forum" here, but better yet, you might wish to go to a place called daz3d.com because they are the ones that created M3 and sell it or distribute it.
I have read aticles in the poser forum where this character might have been a free download at daz recently, not sure if it still is or not.
If you link there I am sure you will find out quickly enough. Oops, double posted with you dialyn, only you said it so much simpler.

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I sometimes do wonder why there be a forum at all, if we are not supposed to speak or write or think into it? Could it possibly be that some of us are not just trolls, but actual members that care and would like to see this place grow and have some value more than just yes and no answers and how are you, yes, okay, I am fine, how about you?? There is a great wealth in many ways here, and I'm not just talking about the store, that's just a part of it, and the gallery and the information here that 'can' be had amongst us all can be invaluabe; but we are also people here, many of us have gotten to know each other here and although you sure may well have your miscrossed, misjudged, misguided characters at times, most of us would just like the opportunity to communicate on another invaluable part of this place; it's 'forum' whether it's on or about textures in poser or pleasantries about art or someone having grief over their unsightly mole on their butt. I mean hey, someone's unsightly butt mole may become another person's idea for another awsome texture, won't be the first time some or any form of communication amongst artistic types led to inspirational ideas of some great form. Isn't that what it's all about? Why have a quiet forum or a forum where everyone goes to, but no one wishes to speak much anymore because they need to be too cautious or be afraid to communicate just in case it is taken as a form of causing 'discord'? Should it read "Welcome LornaW" at the top of my screen? Or perhaps it should say "Welcome LornaW, please wear this muzzle in your time spent here because you just talk way too much!"

Oh com'on, how about serving some vegetables too?! Maybe some nice salad?? I watch my health you know, and cheap fried chicken only goes to my boobs and my waist. Wouldn't want that now, I have enough trouble keeping abreast of things as it is! LOL!!

"But you DIDN'T tell us which is your favorite model and why. Pls, play by the rules. thanx." Hmmmm..I suppose that would not so much depend on 'what' character I like, but what folks 'do' with the characters. I haven't any faves really. I've seen some lovely renders of Michael here, as I've seen some awsome pictures done with the age old dorky guy. Guess I can't really decide, depends on the renders..LOL!

So after my time at work I come back to find myself at awe; Someone has a picture of me with my giggling boobs popping outta my bra and likes that, but they don't like dirty toilets. XENO is enjoying his bandwidth space with a passion and enjoying his noteriety of several hundred folks coming to this forum just to read his answers even more. Poor dialyn doesn't want to hear anything anymore. Bonnie thinks it's all too funny all around and recommends an uncontrolled locking spree. Poppi makes some sense amidst her popping but no one bothers to listen to her pops or otherwise. I wasn't being sarcastic, I actually thought my time sensitive venting forum idea might be or lead to some sort of solution, or a start to an answer, an idea, and I could take it further, but something tells me no one is taking me serious here. In my silly way I'm trying to be a part of a solution here and certainly not a problem. I believe that if there could be some opportunity for compromise regarding all this, it could mean only good for this forum and more comfort to people growing here. I'm hoping that a part of the reason this thread has not been locked as yet is because maybe someone is listening with an open mind? Anyways, pardon me, gotta throw on some leftover chicken and vegetables, haven't eaten yet and my mouth is just watering..keyboard is a mess now..

I know poserpros, been there, and as entertaining as it can be being able to say whatever we want there, it may be a bit too far off the edge, way too axe grinding and harsh and very low blow too many times. Where as this place is extreme one way, there you have the far off other extreme. Going back to my old star trek way of looking at it, no one wants to be a bunch of vulcans or the borg, but no one wants to be a bunch of ferengi's or klingons either. Well, I'm sure some do, but hey? Happy medium?? Lol!! Maybe there's an in between somewhere so that people can be allowed to be passionate enough, and communicate without killing each other at the same time?? We need a nice toilet place here or else the crap just builds up and builds up and eventually we just lose it all over, and that's not good at all. So why not let us have a toilet for silly sake??! We know there will always be someone that won't flush the toilet after taking their crap, always, always, and someone will always dribble all over, that's inevitable, and that stuff then causes others a real problem, sure. Perhaps only open that toilet when there's a plunger and cleaner handy, at certain time intervals?? There's an idea? Have you ever tried a time sensitive venting forum?? Maybe announce that at such and such a time Renderosity will allow folks to commnicate whatever may be on their minds as peacefully as possible, and then make that forum dissapear again till that same time again? Or just have it occasionally?? It's a start and far better and hopeful than nothing at all?!! And it has to be better all around than this? Now your getting nothing but disoriented pooper folks blathering all over and one locked moment after another, hey, it would keep it in a much better place then, no? Just a thought. And XENOPHONZ, the best headache medicine is bed and a dark room, but even better is a very relaxing place to be able to unwind and sometimes just knowing others have problems too and being able to relate to other folks can make us feel a little better in life and have easier headaches. Excuse me, I'm off to get dressed and run off to work before I'm late, and still have no make up on, yikes!

I seem to remember the OT and I remember bonestructure and laughing at all his wonderful humor. "Currently, I like the looks of James. Rugged, masculine, but he looks like a man who could laugh. I wish that he was grouped better, but I can work with him. And I still like Michael 2." But Carolly, you never even mention the old poser dork we hear about sometimes? Don't you just love that all around age old innocent, lame look he gave us and with one touch you could make him grin such a profound smile! Now there was some unintentional perversion with one simple 'smile' morph dial, LOL!! See? We really should be able to laugh more. It's not always about pulling each others hair out. I don't recall someone like bonestructure above ever damaging anyone and he certainly leaves a very passionate message here above.