Rendo does have a habit of sending mixed messages, stating one thing just to change it a few months down the road.  i remember back in the day when they pulled all 'adult' type content, just to put it all back again if the vendor was willing roughly 8 months [?] later...

i'm no prude either, but some things here can still surprise me in terms of what the current acceptability might be at any given time...

and, though i may'nt be able to think of any real uses for a vaginal morph or prop beyond the obvious, there might be others that have a need for such a thing, and a need beyond the obvious. 

for example, those beautiful rope packs you have in your post.  if those were ever made for V4, i'd be nabbing them up in a heartbeat.  not only do i find them extremely artistic and pleasing to my eye [i don't see them as sexual bondage anything], but i can see uses for such things beyond the potentially obvious like Cirque du Soleil type images, or creepy horror type images [think weird murder house]... etc. 

i believe a thing is just a thing and it is through intent or use that defines it for judgemental purposes [good/bad, healthy/unhealthy, benign/malicious, etc.]

and in the time it's taken me to type this, i've thought of a use for a vaginal morph:  the birth of some horrifying alien creature or devil spawn, the sheer terror & horror on the mother's face as she leans up & over to see what slips from her body - but that's just me... i tend to like creepy stuff :))

[checking the Content/Language button in case 'vagina' is actually a naughty word]

Good to know I am not the only one that thinks that way :P

  Just because Renderotica fills a void for those who create material for many alternate lifestyles, does not mean that everyone there are deviants. Nor to say that all the props and art in their galleries strictly adhere to certain genre's, and nothing else.

  To say you have not gotten that bad yet is hypocrisy...   Tell me, do really think that all the textures and clothing for the DAZ children and teens are only used by good God fearing artist for G and PG images? Can you say with any certainty, that some of your adolescent textures and clothing props will not be used by pedophiles to satisfy their perverted desires and share said image with other who crave such trash?  

 If you look closely within Renderotica, you will notice no textures of  young children or teens offered within their storefront, their gallery forbids images of children even when they are clothed. Their TOS forbids images of any character that looks younger that 20 in their galleries, and simply trying to post an image that could be considered borderline, could cause an artist to be banned from the website.   Some may cringe at seeing BDSM props, Shibari Props and poses, Kinky collars, and ballet Toed leather heels being sold here.

I cringe when I see children and young teen textures and outfits, knowing that in the wrong hands, they will be used for even more perverted acts like incest and KP.

Think about that before you start pointing the finger at other sites..

Regards DML2000 

 

 

AMEN! thank you!

Trust me they are being used in some very nasty ways in DA. I find it horrifying some of the "children" things I see.

I have been fighting, begging, anything I can to get them to have a zero tolerance for child images that are sexual.

sighs I have no issue with vaginas. What bothers me is that most of the time to even go look for a decent one you have to go to Renderotica..which has its own pitfalls.

I cant understand why such a product cant or shouldnt be sold here.

Its a part of the human body. Even if you arent doing "sex" pictures you need a woman to be correct. No "Barbie doll syndrome".

Why cant it be handled here? As for the shibari set..its quite artistic. While it can be erotic. The set is beautifully artistic  and I dearly wish they had it for v4.

It is frustrating for some of us that we cant purchase items like that here. Never mind that some "erotic poser" places do not use paypal and you have to register with another pay site...which I am not interested in doing...

Besides I thought they had "mature content" thumbs on naked figures etc?

I still want nice back morphs...the back is so forgotten.....

max Dist: 50

You have your max distance at 50 Poser native units? Did you grasp what I said earlier about my units are inches? If you're following some demonstration I did, that is not at all the number you would use. Your 50PNU would show up on my screen as 5,160 inches.

I did and was why I changed it to inches >.< I re-did the nodes just in case afterwards.

I turned GC off, no idl

It still doesnt seem to be working.

Hmmm. Recall I mentioned that I suspected the AO node behavior has changed.

I just tried it and found that the Max Distance parameter is not acting the same as it used to. Long ago I wrote that it was different than the max distance of light-based AO. It seems (after just a quick test) that they may have corrected that. (I wrote long ago that it seemed like the AO node was off by a factor of 12, indicating that some programmer got his feet and inches mixed up - but that was just a theory.)

In which case, you need to increase the max distance by at least a factor of 10 vs. any of the old Poser-7 era examples.

I just did one with 150 inches that was more similar to what I used to get with 12 inches.

Oh ok. The settings I had used were from a thread in 2013...so this may also be why its not working right.

"I am using poser native units"

Right so the numbers you should use are way smaller by a factor of 100 than the numbers I use, when it involves a distance (such as ray bias).

You cannot just copy my numbers, unless your number system is the same, inches, that mine is. What numbers did you use? I have no hope of clearing this up by just repeating my numbers. 

The numbes I used are Diffuse value:0.30000

On the AO node:

samples:4

max Dist: 50

RayBias:0.100000

strength:1

But Ill change my setting to inches....and turn off GC

Yes IDL is off.

I am using poser native units and GC is on. clothing is billowing around her, parts are close some are off the body but still near by. I am using pp2012

GUH...when they have these morphs like zombi etc..they do not take into account its not just size that changes. bones stick out, tendons become more pronounced..and on V4 the back seems to be completely ignored! Backs are beautiful...but when they look flat and no detail its frustrating. There is no vertebrae to stick out of the skin when very thin..there is no shoulder blades..no back details at all

Thanks.  I am really curious!

http://art-of-darkelegance.deviantart.com/art/Koi-Goddess-529161412?ga_submit_new=10%253A1430004486 that is the finished product...no...sure I am 100% happy with it..but I am close.

Went to the gallery to see the image ... your last image was uploaded in 2009 ... Was wondering if you could share the image you've been working on with the leaf shadows.  Curious minds want to see. :)

Still working it :P

I decided the hair had to go. I am adding waterline plants. And now I am unhappy with the water....This is the longest I have -ever- worked on an image. this has been going now for two weeks. My work I usually post now in DA...but most is in storage. Ill link when the image is done!

Great! For the benefit of future readers who may be referred to this thread for the same problem, can you tell us what you found that was wrong?

I -love- the shadow I get with the lights now. The shadows under her hands..the shadows from the leaves....lovely. Now I can continue building the scene! I may be back for more advice ^.^

Sorry you seemed to have missed my question. can you tell us what you found that was wrong?

My HDR light wasnt right, it was washing my shadows out, My "sun" didnt have the right  shadow sample. I didnt have the point light, My third light was a specular light(an infinite light). It didnt add anything really to the scene.....?

Great! For the benefit of future readers who may be referred to this thread for the same problem, can you tell us what you found that was wrong?

I -love- the shadow I get with the lights now. The shadows under her hands..the shadows from the leaves....lovely. Now I can continue building the scene! I may be back for more advice ^.^

YES!! I have gotten the shadows how I want them! it seems it was the lights that was the issue.  BagginsBill I could hug you!!

Here's a scene I made - it's in my dropbox for you (temporarily).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/szz3q2l9vt5nyq9/ShadowScreen.pz3?dl=0

It's really simple and looks like this.

If it looks like this for you, too, then you should study it to find what you're doing differently.

It uses no maps so all you need is the scene file.

ok Ill study the scene.

I am stripping it back and starting over with the lights etc..will post a new screen shot in just a moment