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Quote - no point posting further. Waste of time.
Probably for the best. You are just making an ass out of yourself. Kind of embarrassing, really...
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce
Quote - ...Dvlenk6, please, don’t go there…I’m seething at the hypocrisy and arrogance. Should I still be waiting for change? ;-)
OK, back on topic.
Here are some of my favorite quotes from the non debate
Quote - None of the models used by the IPCC are initialized to the observed state and none of the climate states in the models correspond even remotely to the current observed climate. In particular, the state of the oceans, sea ice, and soil moisture has no relationship to the observed state at any recent time in any of the IPCC models.
– Dr. Kevin Trenberth, Head of the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, and lead author of the UN IPCC’s Scientific Assessment of Climate Change.
Quote - I personally cannot in good faith continue to contribute to a process that I
view as both being motivated by pre-conceived agendas and being
scientifically unsound.
Quote - We must abandon scientific method and act on faith.
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce
A bit off topic, but...
Does it piss anybody else off that both the man who chairs the committee which writes the U.S. tax code (Charlie Rangel, D-NY) and the chief officer that enforces said tax code (Timothy Geithner, Secretary of the U.S. Treasury) are tax cheats?
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce
Skiillgee,
It's fascism; that is, the merger of big business and government; or more precisely, big government sponsoring and controlling big business (and large national groups like labor unions and professional guilds). What it boils down to is that it is our money (taxpayers) that is propagandizing all of this illegal ponzi scheme hoax.
Take Generalissimo Electric, for example. They will control the U.S. 'carbon trade' market w/ hefty 'service fees' drawn off of each transaction. That's billions, if not trillions of dollars earned for doing absolutely nothing. It makes sense, of course, that they are willing to turn their media outlets (NBC and all it's subsidiaries) loose to propagandize the ideas that will lead to their new multibillion dollar cash cow (at our expense).
It's worth noting that Jeffery Immelt (CEO of GE) is one of the current administration's chief energy advisors. The man who's energy company stands to make billions of dollars of (untaxed) profit is advising the government on public energy policy (and providing biased media propaganda that would make Joseph Goebbels proud).
'Big Oil' profits are a mere fraction of what governments take out of fuel sales.
Exxon, for example, explores, drills, extracts, refines, ships, and retails petroleum and makes about 5 cents per gallon profit. The U.S. Federal Government does nothing, and makes about 18.4 cents per gallon (state median tax is ~25 cents / gallon).
The governments are the villains, Exxon (and everybody else) is the victim of price gouging by the governments. The FEDs take 3 times more than the companies, the states 4 times more; and neither of them contributes anything whatsoever to the business.
Note: Exxon also pays almost as much to the federal government in Income tax as it's profits equal. Apparently 300% of 'obscene big oil profits' isn't enough to satisfy the government price gougers.
Profit per gallon:
'big bad evil greedy lying murdering oil tyrants' : $0.05
Federal Government - $0.184 + income tax equal to company profit.
State Governments: $0.25 + applicable state income taxation.
So who really are the villains in this scenario?
I know who I think is the villains.
You see, left wing radicals have to have a villain to focus the hatred and anger of their base against in order to rally support in the public sector to take over private resources.
The villain de jour is 'big bad evil health insurance companies' because the fascists are now in the process of finalizing the nationalization of the U.S. medical and insurance industries. Doctors were hit too (remember those press conferences talking about pediatricians ripping kids tonsils out for cash, and surgeons chopping off diabetic's feet?).
When the Taxman-Malarkey bill (aka tax and raid) hits the senate debate you will see a huge spike of negative press aimed at the 'big bad evil energy companies' again (like there was leading up to the house vote).
When H.R. 875 rolls around, it will be the 'big bad evil food companies' that are the villain.
Etc., etc., etc.
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce
Quote - ...Again, this is politics, not facts that drives this. It shouldn't be discussed here.
You are right, it (man made climate change) is politics, and has nothing to do with either facts or science.
Glad you recognize that; but, there is no rule here that says politics can not be discussed.
I thinking of writing a book, "Green Tea and Red Koolaid; Diet for Disaster"
What do you think?
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce
Silverblade63,
Don't drink the red koolaid,
The red koolaid is bad.**
**
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce
Quote - Ah, the truth of the matter shows itself as it always does, "It's all the fault of the Evil Greens!"
fine, so be it, you've made yer choice based on politics as wlays there is no point arguing this: enjoy the consequences.
Hogwash!
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce
Quote - Dvlenk6, what is your field of speciality?
Optics
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce
Greens, Explain please:
These are fundamental impossibilities, and the 'scientists' involved in the AGW hoax consistently dodge attempting to reconcile these physical absurdities; instead, they have opted to mount a political/religious crusade using mass media driven hysteria and ridiculously false alarmist claims, neither of which is rooted in any known earth based scientific principle.
There are so many fallacies being propogated by the Greens that the whole concept is obviously a hoax. If it were true, they wouldn't need to resort to fearmongering:
Quote - Estimated death toll form smoking by middle of this century will be aorund 250 million, fyi. Makes the tyrants of last century look like second raters.
That's beans compared to the deaths caused by the greens. The DDT ban alone is directly responsible for at least twice that many deaths, and the greens have admitted that they knew it was a harmless chemical while they were lobbying for it's discontinuance.
Quote - If the climate change sby 2 degrees C or more in a century, be it by man made or any other cause, the death toll will probably be in the billions, fyi. War over food/water will be spectacularly bad.
I'll add that one to my list of fallacies/lies. Thanks!
Quote - It's very funny how most oflk will accept what science tells them, but nto this issue. The reaosn is obvious.
I find it tragic that, lacking any basis in real world science, that so many people support such an obvious hoax.
For instance, what qualitfies you to make an assessment of the science involved one way or the other?
Yet, here you are, mocking 'deniers'.
Quote - This year will be one of the top five warmest years globally since records began 150 years ago, according to figures compiled by the Met Office.
They have said that for every year since 1991. 1 for 18 isn't very good record for predictions. Besides, what temperature record are you talking about?
The raw temperature data? or the 'adjusted' temperature data?
and the 'adjustments' are being done by the Hansen maniac at NASA.
Forget about predictions for the future. Let's look at past predictions and how they played out in the real world. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong; but this time, they are iron clad perfect... until they are found to be wrong again, and again, and again, and again.
When someone's predictions are wrong all the time, you would really have to be an ignorant asshole to continue to believe new predictions from the same source. Unfortunately, there are an awful lot of ignorant assholes in the world.
I can honestly say that I have never encountered anyone learned in my field of specialty that believes mankind is responsible for Earth's climate. I'd guess between 25 and 35 percent of my colleagues believe that there is a lasting change to global climate happening now (and about 50/50 for cooling/warming).
That translates, by my 'old fashioned' figurin' (all 'deniers' are idiot flat earthers, remember?); that about 12.5 to 17.5 % of legitimate researchers believe global warming is a serious issue; and ~0% believe there is anything we could do about it, even if it was happening.
I personally feel that anyone claiming Anthropogenic CO2 emmissions are responsible should be stripped of all academic credentials and sent back to elementary education (or sent to career retraining school).
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce
Rayraz,
I have no explanation, outside of deliberate fraud, about how anyone could examine the raw data and come to the conclusion that temperature is increasing...
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Thread: Wildly OT - Why athletes dont have real jobs... | Forum: Bryce
Thread: Happy thanksgiving everyone! | Forum: Bryce
Quote - STOP MURDERING TURKEYS!!
But, there are so many around here that I feel if I don't shoot a couple once in a while, they will overpopulate and starve...
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce
Quote - temperature has been goin up in the arctic though..
Who fed you that line?
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce
Quote - wow.. impressive! I wonder if that has anything to do with global warming..
I don't see how, considering that the global mean temperature has been dropping for at least 12 straight years now...
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Thread: Comfy chair | Forum: Bryce
I tried to start a Comfy Chair Contest, just for giggles, before.
There wasn't much interest.
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Thread: OT - Iceburgs travel to NZ | Forum: Bryce