Since you're doing a Mac version, PLEASE make it 9.x compatable. But it sounds fascinating, and yep, eminently useful for animators.

If you want to learn, start with the tutes here and at PoserPros and some of the other sites: you'll find far more information here than in any of the books. But if you must have the books, the only one I can really recommend is "Lighting in Virtual Space". It may be out of print now, but it was one of the first to deal with the subject. Beyond that, it's like the old joke of how to get to Carnegie Hall: practice. Look at what artists do that you admire, and ask them about technique -- almost all will be happy to show you what their tricks of the trade are. Then try it out yourself and see how well it works for you. And experiment: play with the program and its capabilities. You'll be surprised what you may find en route.

So the cat's back feet are going through his front legs... ?

Really nice work!

You always do the same thing. You rush into a post and make some outrageous remarks, then spend the rest of the post back-peddling, watering down what you previously said, trying to show people how they misunderstood you. That tactic is getting just as tiresome and obvious Listen, my delicate little hot house flower, my "outrageous" remarks simply showed the silliness of your claim when you started hauling in those morphs and claiming them as copyright infringement. And if there was any backpedaling in this thread, I'd damn sure like to see it, because it didn't come from me. So here's how it goes, gang. I like Anton's work. I've said so on several occasions, although he was usually too wrapped up in his own blinding brilliance to notice. But when he screws up and starts making wild accusations of deliberate infringement, then I'm gonna call him on it, just as we all should with anyone who's doing this. The rules on this stuff are so fuzzy now, between pcf encoding and DAZ doing a double-back on cr2 distribution as well as the Poser manual itself going into detail of how to make clothing from a body mesh, that I'd be more willing than not to cut some people a little slack when things like the Magic Hair appears. I'm not saying the prop should continue to be in Freestuff, but these wholesale calls for pitchforks and torches as we storm the monster's castle are unnecessary and uncalled for. And when morph files are hauled in as additional "proof" of infringement... well, then it's time someone was sat down and explained a few things. So sorry to burst this bubble of yours, Mister Anton, but no, I'm not "trolling" your beloved thread. I'm damn sure not backpedaling either. You messed up on this one, and someone needed to tell you. Yeah, the stuff with Luna was a bad thing and should be followed up on... and I suggest you do as you once claimed you would do to me: get on a plane, fly to wherever she is, hire a lawyer, and sue the pants off her (and yeah, folks, that's exactly what the Great Anton said he would do, over a spectacularly trivial and meaningless gallery image that Anton took enormous umbrage to and ultimately forced the PTB to pull down, even though it was about as offensive as a Family Circus cartoon). I'm sorry that you've been the object of creative theft once again, but you're not the first. You won't be the last. And innocent mistakes are gonna be made, whether you find them "stupid" or not. That's it for me, folks. I'm outa this one.

One of the things I love most about your work is the texturing. Beautiful as always, guys. Thanks.

LD, is there anything you can't find??? :-)

when are you gonna learn that sometimes it's better to just leave well enough alone and retain your credibility (which, by the way, you just blew!). If I did, so be it. Your post came in as I was writing mine, so I didn't see yours in advance. Mea maxima culpa. But let's face it: this thing started off fine, then got downright stupid. And I'm getting a little tired of seeing accusations of copyright violation thrown around like rice at a Catholic wedding. Sheessh.

Whatever you say, hon. But dealing with the actual issue here, you might bear in mind that innocent mistakes do occur, and not everyone is out to rip you off. Once you get past that, maybe it's time to deal with the real issue at hand, which seems to be Luna. Remember: Love ya like a sister.

Besides, Emmanuel Lewis? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Illusions, there is a history between VS and myself you are not aware of. Both here and at other forums. And it ain't pretty Most of it due to your making snap judgments before really looking at things, as you've done to me on more than a few occasions, but that's another matter for another time. As far as these issues go, maybe it's time we heard from Luna herself, if anyone wants to invite her into the thread. I for one would sure like to hear her side of all this.

No, I will NOT go away, Anton. If you're gonna cite stuff like this, then you'd damn well better be able to prove unequivocably that these people were maliciously ripping you or DAZ off. Luna, yeah, I can understand, but now you're trolling the Freestuff area for things that somehow "prove" your case. Yeah, maybe people can reverse engineer from these things, but that requires a level of expertise that not many of us -- myself included -- have. And when I create a morph file for myself, it's an .obj -- just like these, just like every damn morph at Duane's ToyBox for that matter, and just like every other damn morph I have in my archives. SO IT'S A FUCKING INNOCENT MISTAKE, and why the hell you can't see that completely escapes me. So go after Luna, as you should. But the rest of these? Gimme a break.

It's very cool work, Cal. And this kind of architectural prop always has uses. If you're so inclined to give it away, that would be gratefully appreciated, I'm sure.

Well, pookie, if you looked at the Notes for both of these, here's what you'd find: It is the character of Daz Victoria3. Please prepare Daz Victoria3 separately in use. It is work with Macintosh. It is the release by the obj file. head---Maiko_v3.obj neck---Maiko_neck.obj eye----MaikoLE.obj/MaikoRE.obj They're morph files. Now go take a Valium and get over it.

NOONE IS THAT STUPID I'm glad you think so, but I'm more inclined to give the guy the benefit of the doubt as to his motives before cutting him up into tiny little pieces and then stomping on them. He's a newbie. He's shut down the links. He probably knows he screwed up and wanted to make amends by deleting the links. Ever consider that?? Of course, I could be wrong, but would it frigging hurt to find out before we all sharpen the knives? The rest of his stuff is based on the P4 meshes, yeah, but not everyone knows how to pcf-encode. And if the lack of that knowledge makes people like him STUPID, then I guess I am too. Big whoop. If stupidity is the basis on which we measure people around here, I can think of a few really stupid things in the past myself that people have done to me. Do we really want to travel down that road? Sheessh, Anton. Yeah, it's lousy when someone like Luna time and again rips you off, but not everyone is like Luna. Some people make innocent mistakes, and it might not be such a bad idea to ask the guy before you mail out the necktie party invitations.