After i got the email i wrote back saying" hey guys you care to translate"? To which they did and this is what they said and i laughed so hard i nearly had an accident. Ahem... We're very sorry for the slight confusion in sending messages yesterday. That's what happens when you let an intern try to actually do something useful ;-) Aside from the pathetic "Test" messages, the best part, of course, is that the French version of the Vue 5 annoucement was sent to the English-speaking people, and the English version was sent to the French... Please accept our sincere apologies for the confusion and any inconvenience. We've locked the intern away just to be sure it won't happen again! ;-) Here is the text of the message that you should have received: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear customer, dear friend, E-on software is happy and proud to introduce you to the latest release of your favorite 3D application ;-) It's now been over 3 years that Vue 4 was released. Three years of hard work to turn this new generation of Vue into the ultimate natural 3D environment tool! Last year saw the release of the professional line of Vue products, but this year, with Vue 5, we're introducing a whole new generation. Vue 5 Esprit will ship at the end of the month, and Vue 5 Professional before the end of the year. You can start pre-ordering Vue 5 Esprit right away! The list of new features in this release is bewildering; see for yourself: - Global Illumination and EasyGI - Global Radiosity - HDRI and Image Based Lighting - Procedural Terrains - Advanced Atmospheric Engine - Compatible with Vue Professional Plant Technology - New Material and Function Editors, Parametric Mapping - Metablobs Organic Modeling - 3D Text Editor - Pre-Animated Mesh and Poser Support - Integrated post-processing and camera switching - Advanced OpenGL Engine - Maximum Compatibility and Fault Protection - Compatible with Mover 5 - Numerous Interface Improvements Additional information is available at: http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/vue5 Be one of the first to set your hands on Vue 5 Esprit: pre-order now! http://www.e-onsoftware.com/Products/vue5/preorder.php Vue 5 Esprit will start shipping Thursday, September 30! Best regards from your friends at e-on software.

Thank you Guitta And Djeser will do.

The Funny or not so funny thing about the Vue4 program and the GF4 cards is that even if you cut the opengl out and raise the 3d slider higher is in most cases it will work,sadly my machine is almost exactly alike like yours Silke,only difference being the brand name probably and i still get little white squares in the main frame if i move my mouse in that square. The advice given for the grey shapes does work,i think i asked the same question quit awhile back. So i decided to do a comparisom today on version 3 and 4 with the same machine,Vue 4 has glitches still and Vue3 runs like a champ on my machine. The big downfall tho is i don't get all the goody's we get with version4,so i guess it's a matter of whether i put up with a headache or as the lady's on the "View" sat"enjoy the Vue3". :) I still trust in the makers of this program to fix these problems and issues say in Vue5.

Hmmmm sounds like an interesting idea to try. Hopefully when the upgrade comes out this will be an issue that is taken care of. You would think buying one the best video cards on the market this wouldn't happen. I always turn off everything that's running in the background,even when i'm messing with some other 3d graphics program and it's only Vue that gives me any problems. What's realy weird is that this is the only bug i've found in the Vue. Thanks for you reply :)

Hi I did post that I had the lastest vue upgrade and the lastest upgrade for my video card. Thanks for your reply. I'll keep looking

Thanks for the info. First i'm going to kill gateway and then microsoft then i'll get the Vue going back on my old pc and that will take care of everything hahahahahahaha

Ok i'll check them both out and see what happens. thank you Yngwie.

Thank you Parkie. I was quit scared i'd have to go back to windows 98. I see you did go back,may i ask why?

Thank you so much all of you. I was worried like heck that i would have to put windows 98 on the new computer. So how do you like the new Millenium me program?

Hey Sylvester I started out a long time ago with Coreldraw and then ventured into Metacreations Bryce 2 and went to 4. Of coure i had to try out Raydream Studio5 and Carrara and poser and the list could keep on going. But then we have the Vue, at first i wasn't pleased with it, but that changed fast as i saw what i could o with it especialy when i love to do landscapes. In Bryce seems everyone thinks mountains are round, makes me wonder if anyone has ever lived or been to the mountains lol. In the Vue I can create Nice mountains or whatever and it looks real. Even the water scenes look real. It also renders 10 times faster than Bryce or some of the other programs. And the price well you can't beat it, cause like some companies that charge extra for every little extra they decide to sell as a plugin or whatever , the people at eon don't do this except for the plants. So all in all ouside of a manual that needs great improvement I'd give them a 9 out of 10 score for a job well done.

OOPS that's www.webshots.com sorry

I call that a brain funk when i get into one of those moods where i can't seem to do a thing. Speaking of which i took almost 6 months off and am just now getting inspiration from of all places www.shots.com. It has some great reference material there. Also you just might find your work there. Any way My motto is" You can't rush a good artist". It doesn't matter if you put one picture out a month or two a year, it's the end product that matters. Any of you that have done tradional art as in oils know that it's not normal to put out a piece of work or pieces in one week. So funk or no funk go get that MOJO and have fun doing it :).