DeeceyArt posted at 7:35 AM Mon, 24 July 2023 - #4470988

DownTown37 posted at 4:04 AM Mon, 24 July 2023 - #4470982

After Posting these Renders with La Femme I got asked about the outfit used " DC-ASH for La Femme " so I wanted to point out where it can be found, I had to realize that the Creator DC-Art aka Deekey closed the whole store !? Is this  another Poser creator that left or is it just a change of the Artist name ? The Outfit does not seem to be sold any further. 

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/139872/dc-ash-for-la-femme-lite-and-pro

I have retired from the Poser development team and Poser content creation. The store was closed because most of the products were older and weren't moving any more.

Well anyway the Outfit is top, there has not been many releases of this quality past few years for Poser.

This is a "work in Progress" in combination with the Owl Helmet. The Ork Harpy is a Unimesh single skin Poser figure using own tools to create the gigging until Poser 13 will have them Released.

Standalone Figure Rigged Posed and Rendered in Poser13 "Superfly"

After Posting these Renders with La Femme I got asked about the outfit used " DC-ASH for La Femme " so I wanted to point out where it can be found, I had to realize that the Creator DC-Art aka Deekey closed the whole store !? Is this  another Poser creator that left or is it just a change of the Artist name ? The Outfit does not seem to be sold any further. 

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/139872/dc-ash-for-la-femme-lite-and-pro

From what I have read LF2 is supported by 11+ so does not seem to be any new tech or Poser 13 creation tools . Tools to convert are rather simply based on the figure it self basically do not have anything in common for creations . allot of figures in the past came with such helper tools. But yes we will see what LF2 will be bringing with her and if these tools are more then just converting LF1.2 things to 2, or also supporting content from V4 to be converted with ease, but that is rather questionable. Else there will still be the old poser included methods but more for rigging experts.

I was very exited about the announcements of new Poser 13 creation tools at the beginning but lost hope about these in the meantime, to many misleading announcements and promises. Could be a good thing for creators but for now , the way things sounds, only the litte insider team has access to these new tools if LF2 would be based on this all new content creation system. 

Wait and see what they come up with end of this month :) 

This Information does not seem to be quiet right, Unless that La Femme 2 would be the promised simple skin aka Unimesh figure that was annulated due a delay on the Poser 13 startup, In combination with a new setup room system for easy Creations. The surprise Figure was actually canceled that would of been the first Poser figure Based on Simple skinning ( Unimesh ) that was supposed to be Included in the P13 Launch ....

Quote Posersoftware

A key goal for this release has been to simplify content creation for Poser by supporting single-mesh figures that remain in memory and are not broken into smaller segments internally by the software (aka unimesh).  We are still working toward that goal  but, with this release, we are proud to announce the delivery of updated tools for content developers that greatly simplify common tasks such as the creation of conforming clothing for Poser figures.  This focus on tools that streamline content creation will be an on-going theme for Poser development going forward.

https://www.posersoftware.com/article/575/unleash-your-creativity-with-poser-13s-new-features-and-tools

I do not think that the new release of La Femme 2 has anything to do with the Op Question and it would be misleading pointing at LF2 for the updated creation tools! They might be comming out on the Promised Update end of the month 13.1 but as it seems no one has mentioned all these plans any further.

Quote Poser software,

Mar 29, 2023 at 10:35

We are happy to report that an exciting new figure is in the works for Poser 13 and will arrive soon with delivery accelerated by the new content creator tools.  Watch the PoserSoftware newsletter in coming weeks for related announcements.

https://www.posersoftware.com/article/575/unleash-your-creativity-with-poser-13s-new-features-and-tools

New Content Creator Tools do not seem to be included until now in P13 and seem to be still a incomming update unless I could not find Them so someone could point on where they are in Poser 13

Wonder why the Renders have been removed I just Posted , or was it just a glitch ? it is La femme BTW and no offensive Works ! So Posting them again .... La Femme with the New Owl-Helmet

Make up your mind, alt account of a likely previously banned person: do you think we're fanatics for defending her, or are you angry that we have any criticism of her? You're not making any sense.

As I said I do not have any Problems with La Femme, Guess the problem rather is laying on the Admirer of La Femme, Like you say She is the best, had the best sales, she beaten Victoria, Victoria was a total fail and La Femme saved poser.  No other Poser figure (that comes with Poser) has even come close !

Actually I do not see any reason to argue with fanatic La Femme Admirers that take any suggestions as affront any critique gets aggressive reactions, guess this is also a very big problem about La Femme. like Extremists, Poser equal La Femme and nothing else, not a very motivating base for Creators at all ....

Not that I think it is wrong making new releases upgrading older versions, but it would of been better Giving it a new Name LF LH seem to be Cursed for Poser For allot of Creators and users hearing the name La Femme already makes them searching for things to rant about , Nothing you will be able to change about that no matter How many Versions you release ! Keep the Name Keep the Curse !  If a name in RL gets a bad reputation you will never be able to change it by just adding a number behind it  giving it a better reputation. So users Creators might just start thinking that someone is trying to Milk a Cow down to the last drop

Some do not care about it they take what they get an fix the stuff for there preferences but these you can count on one hand.

You could of called her just "Amunet" or " Venus " names that already symbolize beauty and you would have more success , less ranting as the name is beauty " La Femme " went just wrong somehow.  Victoria ----> Victory  guess this tells it all why it had so much success ! Genesis -----> The coming into being of something; the origin. The name is the success not the model ! So most will pick a choice with whom they wanna play with and I am really not sure if La Femme  gives enough sympathy to end up as a famous brand name.  

Interesting Indeed ! But wondering why expanding, rebuilding LF as there was a promised Unimesh simple skinning model for poser13, actually already on launch, the latest news was that it would be released a little later. This would for sure be worth spending time on also for future extensions from creators rather then continue building on a older system. Unless all this Unimesh promotion was a big bla bla and has been dropped in the meantime.

Poser Traditional rigging is very limited and always causing bending issues no matter how much you will try so the Idea jumping on simple skinning was actually good and would of solved many of these limitations. 

So makes me wondering why rebuilding a whole wardrobe for a figure type without a big future if  that promised release with better options is coming out soon, Poser 13 promotion were saying that it already was built and just is having a little delay due some issues. What happen there ?? 

Now each page has its own additional material layer with a minimal distance to the book pages so each can use it's own map or coloring like in the case shown. A book like this gives you amazing possibilities :)

to get the rounded pages when opening, the book needs to be made in a closed stadium. not a easy task to group, after rigging when opening you get this rounded page effects, so yes it can be closed into zero pose and all is straight, just like real. you only get this realistic effect this way. The traditional way of rigging in poser would not allow this effects as the pages are overlapping when the book is closed simple skinning unimesh in poser makes it possible and the only thing that needs to be done is to smooth out the bending with the joint editor paint tool on the individual groups of the pages.  

Thank you Y-Phil

The 4 pages have a secondary layer this allows you to write your text in white on a black paper using these in the material room as trans and diffuse using your own colors or make them glow. a really easy setup to add your own made textures for the pages. Now I will separate the material zones for each page this way each can get it's individual texture on the layer, the book cover will get a mechanical magical seal and also a secondary layer for decorations. I was also thinking of making one page high res to be able to add morphs like a face coming out or water effects but I have it triangulated and would have to make em solid quads at least for the page that would get morphs. Alternative add a conforming page to the book for such a feature.   

I just started a own little test for a poser book using a bendable unimesh "simple skinning" rigging witch is very simple and offering you amazing results, at least better then  with the bend off option in Poser or traditional poser rigging that could cause issues with the XYZ axis. You just need to Group the movable parts, The more the better, Morphs are not needed anymore having way better options with articulations. XYZ dials getting to be your best friends when rigging it unimesh.

you have a few options.

open the Joint editor in Poser, change the Orientation angle slightly while the book is open. Depending on what dial is opening the book you have to use either X Y or Z. make sure the axis ( Green ) is on top where it is not torn apart else it will cause that both sides split ( Move the axis to the top corner ) .

second option as it seems that you use the bend off feature for this articulation would be to merge the edges L + R of your book can be done in Blender or other 3d program in this case you would rig it bendable, a little more work.