Yeah, things are starting to make sense. Your suggestions are clearing things up a bit, too. I use carrara 1, UV Mapper (standard), and have the propack. Also use a Mac, so I can't use some of the nifty utilities out there. I ran into thip's tutorial, too, which has helped. So where I am right now is that I brought my obj into poser, and loaded up steph, all dials at zero/ik off. Arranged the coat perfectly to fit her. Changed the style to outline to see her joints, and am now using the grouping tool to create the parts of the coat. It's gonna take awhile, but it seems that I am on the right track so far, right? So then next step is to create the cr2 for the coat, by using something like a shirt and plugging all the new info into a copy of the cr2 using a text editor or set up room, right? Thanks again for all your help so far. I had to create something complicated for my first modeling project, huh? Couldn't create a simple prop for starters. LOL. Well, at least I didn't decide to make my first project an entire outfit, I guess.

Lovely face. Only suggestion might be to narrow the chest area just a tad.

Wow-talk about a sweet looking character! Thanks much.

Bat Lab (Wonderful clothing) Runtime DNA (Need I say more?) 3D Mengerie's remapped buck (Wish every animal was redone like this) Laboratory 108 (Great props, and a ton of 'em) Information Service Operation Project (Wonderful Alize and Nurse outfits) And even though it's not really poser, 3D-Extra. Helmut has the most amazing meshes for free.

1. People who are simply angry at DAZ and don't want to accept the inevitable. I'm not simply mad at DAZ. My big issue is that I work on a Mac. So DAZ is willing to alienate an entire segment of the consumer segment? Or until they come out with that relevant software for us Mac users? And how long would that take? And as it has been said before, why should we have to pay even more money? It's a very legit arguement against this idea. I personally like DAZ very much, but what they are suggesting has us catering to them, not the other way around, which is the way business should work, right? We, after all, pay their bills. It has nothing to do with raising a tempest for the vast majority of us. We have very legit concerns, whatever angle we are coming from. And It's almost becoming a case of not being able to see the trees for the forest, you know? :)

Unless I am missing something here, I am correct to assume that Mover does not have a Mac version? I was searching around for one but, found nada. I am just getting into modeling...this just seems like another hoop to jump through that shouldn't exist in the first place. Does this also mean that there's the chance if you don't own the character, you can't use the clothing? I don't have the Mil kids, but I have the kid's Costume Shoppe set, which I enlarge and quite happily use for Vicky/Steph. Am always using Mike's coats on the girls too. So, what, I'm gonna be up *$#@ creek with no paddle? Personally, part of the fun of using items is finding unusual ways to use them. So I don't own the character they were created for? So what! With some creative dial twirling, I can make something much more origional with them many a time.