Are there any realistic renders of people using 13 floating around that someone could point me to? Thanks

Could you post something similar to this and post a time.  The resolution is a bit small but, I'd like to see something a bit more realistic. The first car posted is the only one that even comes close to what I want in an image.   Thanks

This took 63 second using different software.  I'm debating on trying Poser and so far not much has interested me.

Was this video posted to promote your YT channel? You still seem to be able to post YT videos and access the internet.

Down for awhile meaning 1 year? Doubt either has made an extreme leap to make a difference "for me". Since this is a bit dated thread my input may help others with the same question.

Here's my opinion based off some simple observations and not actually comparing the functionality. Look at the quality of content for each program. Then look at the majority of renders posted by the users of each program. Look at the amount vender support. Look at the cost to produce your content. Then make a choice. Personally, I found it easy to make a decision.

What a good vendor does is gets one good texture and makes minor changes in it. They get one good base body and make minor changes in it. Then they post 50 characters based off the base format. This formula has been working for years

How many threads and PMs would it save if venders would just list products used in their ads? Not like it's difficult to post "custom model NFS" or Stephanie 6 with custom textures, Hair 03 by Someguy, ect... Not like they post 12 renders every day. it's a mix of 1-3 models / 1-3 environments / 1-3 outfits. They probably have a file of go-to lights,hairs, morphs they use religiously. It would generate business for other vendors and save custom frustration.

Use to be a Poser guy and quit for awhile. Came back and tried Daz. Now I come here to buy Daz products not listed elsewhere. Wonder what kind of profit loss this site would take if it stopped promoting Daz products completely. I miss some Poser features but enjoy the model quality of Daz. If they ever decide to come up with a drag and drop or one click conversion, I'll think about getting Poser again.

Thanks for the info and getting back with me to resolve my confusion

Is one to expect only favorable critics in the gallery?

See no way to edit pre-post ...  I had IDL off :p  Thanks for all the help.  I wanted to experiment with making fluorecent tubes.

WoW  thanks for all the Help.  I'll give it a shot and see what happens.