Hi Gear, I spoke to a Corel rep here at work yesterday (I work for a dot-com computer reseller) and was told not to expect Bryce 5 until next year some time. He did say they would probably be releasing a 4.1 patch first, but of course, we won't be holding our breath for that, will we? :) Hope this info helps. Have fun! -Kirk

Hi. I believe Eshal meant to say, "click on the small triangle next to Create and go to user..." Clicking on Create will only bring up the primitives pallet. The triangle opens up your Preset Object library. Have fun! -Kirk