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hey guys, THANK YOU SO MUCH for such a variety of tips and techniques to get what I am looking for. well my train definitely looks much better and I will have proof at my site on my homepage hopefully over this weekend. basically the ONLY way I am able to get anything close to the real thing is thru trial and error and changing parameters/re-rendering. the sucky thing is the scene is so built up already it takes 2 and a half hours to render and to just do a test render on the outer train body with a light or two wont show me what it'll be like withing the scene. I am using Cinema 4D so displacement is not a problem, I am using a weak strength (around 8% and a maximum of 1m). also a messy clouds/noise/chrome texture is in effect for bumping. oh a shot of a subway car (on the opposite side of the platform why not lol) is being used for an environmental map in addition to reflection. specular and diffuse settings are also important. I have read over the material and lighting chapters in the C4D manula twice already and am learning alot and on top of that I am still new to this.