Solved! No probs anylonger.

YES !!!

Quote - "and it is worse if it's something you paid for...."

There is no way that should get through testing anywhere...

Yeah, sometimes the cr2 was pointing to a "Ga, Ga" directory! If someone doesn't know what's happening, when all those error messages pops up, YOUR CRULY DAMNED. But, we have paid for the trouble. "Live could be so boring, without those surprises".

NoteTab light, is a very good free text editor. It handles big files well, does not format the files in to something else. It backs up your files too. I even use it for NWN, to edit the 2da's files, faster and saver, than the supplied/Community Utils.

Quote - WW2 is great due to you don't need Poser to use it. It has a stand alone version. While I have poser and don't use D|S too much I use the stand alone version allot.

Thanks for that! Does it convert clothes well from one figure to another? I assume from your reaction, it's a yes. Clothe Converter 3.0, is not that user friendly.

I usualy use the "Save as Character Preset".

Quote - . Also the map isn't always as exact as we like to believe it is.

And far to often of my liking!

Quote - Well my current internal hard drive is 500gig, and I'm always afraid of it dying - since the one I was using last November, did die, and this is the new one, so as soon as I have a bit of cash I want another 500gig internal as a safety feature, I already use one of the externals as a back up drive, I feel I want double redundancy...

Fear! fear! big raging fear!  Don't wanna go through that again!

Lol...

Yeah know what you mean! I used to swear of Seagate drives, only when I upgraded my comp last time(about 9 month ago) a friend of mine who has got far more knowledge in these things than I do, urged me, to go for a Western Digital one.

If Seagate has gone down in reliability or not, I cant say. This friend of mine told me, they did.
But confirm that, I cant!

Quote - Hmmm, I am thinking of getting a second hard drive for the PC - internal I mean, I already have two external ones.

What size is it Muffled?  I was thinking of a 500gig one.

My drive is only 130 gig. So a 500 one should be quite a nice one!

Quote - Yep I did that on my old PC.Trouble was it took ages for my PC to locate it on my external HD and every time I did an upgrade of Bryce or DS I got two copies of DS, one in Program files and one on my external.

Might be true for an external drive, but not on the same comp. At least not on mine.

Quote - Sorry, Ladies and Gentlemen, it's me again, I have read this topic twice from the beginning to the end, and found that very interesting and instructive. but,

1. I think a good summary could be found in the new banner of the DAZ|studio forum here above. 

2) the only one Character I have bought for this moment at DAZ is aelwen's Vanessa for V4, a very nice character, who came in a bundle containing, sold together, Vanessa + Vanessa dress. And I was surprised to see that the caracter's installers put files (figure, morphs, textures...) in a certain directories, and the dress from the same bundle installed its own morphs, mats, props, textures in directories completely different. I think it's willingfull, there could not be another explanation. As you have perhaps noticed, there is quite no new vendors/products remaining at DAZ. It seems they have all shifted elsewhere.

1. As I explained in a very long post (which I cant retrace, I'm not still easy with navigation in this gigantic forum) I have opted to a radical solution to this problem, (a Gordian-knot solution) which is to install only the stuff I need for my scene. This idea came to me while watching a 30 minutes long video  tutorial where I notice that 80% of the tutorial duration ones see the tutor navigating along kilometric directories to pick some stuff he needed and 20% of duration only to work really. Guess he makes the same thing when he works in the real, so you can get an idea of his productivity. 
   So I spent not few times to organize with accuracy, not my files, but my installers, managed in comprehensive directories, each product with the .mht (IE7 save file of DAZ-site page) the .jpgs (images samples), and the .EXE (installer). 
   considering that a DAZ installer runs within 10 seconds, I install in few minutes all the stuff I need on a cleaned (5Gb) disk-partition (H:), regardless of any kind of subdir, all with NO uninstall, and clean all D|S other preferences-lookup. H:, only H: always H:. , the stuff, the scene, and the renders. Once my scene is finished, I backup this entire partition on a cd and format it. (quickformat, less than 1 minute). So I have no longer any problem, an no longer any contact with this directory hell. That is not THE solution, but that is a solution. If you think that it is stupid, don't hesitate to tell it, I'm a beginner, so I can hear strong thinks without grimacing.

I just wanted to thank you, and to say at last: when you have no longer problem somewhere, just make a step forward, and soon you will get back your dear worries. For me these have the name of CARRARA.
Friendly, LocusSolus.          

Your way I think, is another solution to the "clogging up" problem. Just with me, I usualy get a bit carried away with some scenes. Like: "Something is missing in there, doesn't feels right." So I add a "few" more props/figure to the scene.

If you know upfront, what sort of scene you wanna create, your system is perfect. But what happens, if you "need" to add something to it?

Quote - That kind of thing is not supposed to happen, Rendo is supposed to test that before it gets released to market I believe. I can understand if I move something that has a full path specified in a file, then I'm asking for it... but things like texture files, geometry, and deltas should not be moved. but rather saved into their proper directories when making a zip file to upload. Dumping everything into one file for a user to figure out is no help either as you still have to go through a bloody deep search for each item you load, or else give your text editor a workout.  I understand some people have no clue what goes where, and want to share stuff, but there are a lot of people who have used Daz/Poser for long enough that they should know better..that's just sloppiness.
Sorry...that's my pet peeve...rant over.

I've never known Poser to crash when this happens but I rarely use it.

It does not happen that often (wrong path to directory, mainly the mat_ pos file for textures is the culprit). I did not changed the main structure of the directorys. Morph/Deltas I didn't touched at all.

But in the for example inside the Geometries directory, I createt folders by the figures name(A3, V3, M3 and so on), inside that one a folder like Dresses, Ancient etc. The same I've done inside the Main "Folders"(Textures,Figure, Poses, Props). The downside is, lots of editing cr2's and pz's files!

At least now I got everything for each Figure/Prop, only a click away, without shifting through "hundreds" of folders to find one item for a figure. Some vendors sadly name their product (add ons like texture maps files/folders, they choose a name, which hardly points to the product it was made for) after installing you wonder, "what was this one for"(Unless you only had one item to install)?

With Poser crashing, when it cant find the path to something, I read on the DAZ and Rendererotica forums. I don't know if it's true or not.

It is true, the directory of DAZ get's clogged up. I once had enough of it and organized it my way.
Geometries, texture, Figure and so on I organized (inside Main folders) by the figures(V3,V4 and so on). Was a heck of a lot of work(S-Notepad got a damn good workout).

What get's me is from time to time, I get a cr2 or pz2,3 file pointing to a directory, that no way in hell exist. I can understand freebies have this problem, but "expensive" gear?

Lucky that DAZ does not crash when it comes across this problem(cant find the path to something), does poser really crashes, if that happens?

Quote - This thread address one of my biggest gripes ever! I even brought it up over on the Daz boards last week. The whole I "won't test in daz" or "I can't be bothered with Daz users" (yes I have sen at least two merchants post just that) stance really gets under my skin. I just can't understand why someone would turn their nose up at that many potential users. The last Daz update had 277,154 downloads. Even if only 20% of those people use the program thats over 50,000 potential customers in a fairly competitive industry.

I've seen the "Daz doesn't work for me" reason for can't do it. That is an excellent reason for a minority of people.
I've seen Daz is free so poser users have more available income as an excuse (no they were not saying it in jest). I got poser 5 free when it was given away over a weekend and its possible people who don't have to fork over x bucks up front will have it to spend on content (just a thought).
I've seen "it is to complex to figure out". I know there are at least 2 tutorials helping vendors figure out exactly how to do it. I know because my business partner did one of them. In general its changing the settings on three things at most for characters, props and sets.
I've seen "its just not as respected a program by serious 3d artists". News flash! Poser is in most cases considered a "hobbyist" ap as well by most serious 3d artists.

Yes in SOME cases like lights and products using multiple nodes you can't get the exact same effects in daz without a plug in of some kind. I confess that I've actually done a product that I think looks better in poser than daz unless you can add an alternate spec so I do understand that you can't always get the same effects with the two programs. However for the vast majority of characters don't have multiple node settings (hell some people don't even bother with bump or displacement maps for characters for gods sakes) and there is pretty much no reason on gods great green earth those can't be tested or supported in Daz. In most cases the only thing the merchant needs to know to do is check the specularity and bump settings, and for characters change it to the skin lighting model and save the bloody thing as a .ds file. If I recall correctly daz doesn't even have to have the files checked to make sure they written correctly and don't include the C:program files and so forth poser likes to tack in there.

And I still think its a bad business decision to tell 50,000 or so potential customers to piss off because you don't want to take a couple of hours and set up extra files for them. And as we do set up both sorts of files for our products I do know it will only take a couple of hours to make the changes.

That what I was thinking as well. To me I think that some people just must "hate" DAZ. Besides DAZ, I have Carrara 6 Pro, Bryce 6 and Maya 7, tho I hardly ever use them.