I guess it's to you. I don't know how Michaeleh knows you (other than you seem the be the resident modeling forum expert) but he suggested that the challenge arena was not the right place for my idea, and that I should run it past you. I can't really make a good case for why you'd want to spend the time on it, other than I think it would make a good Bryce/Poser challenge to come up with unique ideas for portraying the "Joe Camel" character in a ridiculous light without going so far that Copyrights are violated. (ie cange the model sufficiently so that our "Moe Camel" is not identical to the poster art for Joe Camel.) This is really something that I'd expect to have to pay for, so if it's a hit, you could sele it here. If interest is low, it might be better in the Free section.

Never thought about the copyright issues, although I think the tobacco companies would look at it as free advertising. I'll ask modelers forum for a "Moe Camel." (y idea was to challenge the Renderosity tallents to come up with new and twisted ideas for both pro smoking and pro quitting. I figure everyone has an option on this. But I understand for that to be do-able, there would have to be a model already available.)

Anyone know where to get the versions of KPT that include fractal generation as a plugin for Photoshop? I'm thinking ver 2 and ver 5 had those included. Looking for a source to download them or purchase them.