ah, my apologies then DE, you seemed to be making the same points as Bella so I thought that perhaps you were the same person. Getting into a huge debate here is not exactly a fun use of anyone's time, so I'll just accept that some people will never like epilogue, and move on. There are many art sites on the web, and getting emotional over one of them isn't worth the effort. One thing I did want to mention though: I wouldn't take the rejection from Epi so insultingly. My stuff usually gets rejected in under 10 minutes too -- they have enough editors there that you're not left in limbo long waiting. If anyone says that your stuff was rejected because it's crap, then they deserve a kick in the teeth, but I doubt that's what the rejection reason was! Post a rejected image in the WIP forum, and I'll bet you ten to one that there'll be lots of people willing to help you figure out what the issue behind the rejection was and fix it. That is, if its worth it to you to improve the images. If not, then move on with a smile :) Cheers. -- Stephen

First of all, I gather that Bella is DarkElegance? Similar writing style as the thread raging in the epilogue forum right now. Second, I have to say I'm a member of Epilogue.. before the pitch forks are broken out and I get roasted alive however, let me say that I think Epilogue artists are getting unfairly tarred with the "Stupid Traditionalists who don't recognize digital art" brush. I have a small gallery here at 'osity of digital landscapes (http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=Remnant), and I'm also the author of World Machine, a 3D terrain creation and editing application used by a lot of digital artists. I also have a small epilogue gallery (http://draeger.epilogue.net) that contains my paintings, which are, note, also digitally done. In the last big anti-epilogue thread here, someone mentioned that ya'll should go and start submitting there. I'd say, heck yeah! I would certainly love to see some of the great work here at epilogue, as admittedly, when I'm browsing R'osity, I generally stick just to the Mojoworld and Terragen galleries here. Sure, a fair percentage of the work here would be rejected at epilogue, but then, a fair percentage of everyone's work is rejected there. I guess I just don't understand why everyone loves bashing us. Regards, -- Stephen

Attached Link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/worldmachine/

Guitta send me an email saying that some of you were interested in World Machine, my terrain generation tool. I just wanted to drop by and say that I've opened up a user's group for it on yahoo groups, to help people figure out how to use its (admittedly sometimes confusing!) interface and to get nice results.

I'd encourage any of you who are interested in the program to come on over and ask questions, etc, that you have there, to keep all the resources in one place.

Hope to see some of you there!

-- Stephen Schmitt

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