Happy New Year everyone. Talk at you next yr.

I guess I should have had them look up the definition of 'artist' as well Bobasaur. 3rd ref. in my websters dictionary - but I'm sure you'll know which ref. I'm refering to. I would have had them if they agreed to the definition. But alas it was fun :)

illusions - if you'll indulge yourself and look up the definition of censorship I don't believe you'll find the use of whether it's forced or elected of any sort assosiated with it. then using an 'open mind' you might understand my point. I'm sure I don't stand alone in that view.

If we don't agree on the definition of cencorship as stated the point that I'm trying to make here will not be seen. perhaps you've eaten from the blue bowl and not the red by mistake. Just as, if you misinterprete my words or exlude the ending on which I validated my meaning. My point is that if used in conjucntion with a filter, as you so attamently insist is not a "system of censorship", or at least at this point this point we haven't agreed to, (whether it can be turned on or off is a mute point and irrelavent to the deffinition of a system of cencorship - a lght bulb can be turned on and off but it's still a light bulb.) just as pop-up stoppers are a form of censorship, so true is the nudity button or an orange button or a green button if it filters out those colors or whatever it might filter out. Arkansa is not the only place the KKK live and I too have known members, whether I agree with their statements or not is irrelavent, but I never under estimate their intellegance nor their desire for culture. They have their rights as well.

Is that the true concern here? - the desire or non-desire as to redesigning the site? I though we where having a simple discusion amongst members that was simply an interesting topic. it was brought up about nude banners and concerns of cencorship from not only the viewers side but the artists side as well,it was also brought up about the use of the 'filter' as a parenting control device. all related to the initially posted statement. an yes - I do know how to use the profile page - thats been stated umteen times

my point can only be realized if we agree on terms - do agree to the definition of cencorship according to Websters dictionary?

correction - that's Websters new world dictionary

censorship - defininiton - a system of censoring ie the prevention of according to my dictionary Why is it such a big deal that some people have NO INTEREST in seeing nudes and do not wish to? how is this accomplished - by placing a filter or system of cencoring

by catagorizing - you can still elect "not" to see them "so what differnce does it make"? to quote you. a filter removes - cencorship is just that the 'removal' of said items

I can already hear the rebut coming so i answer - kids will be kids and granted with out a filter they risk getting into things they shouldn't or we would rathr them not get into as parents. playing with matches or knifes and not getting run over by a car things of that nature. Since we must preserve the rights of all - to have all availiable - wouldn't you agree as parents it's up to you as a parent to teach your kids to look both ways before crossing a street - Then this falls under the same cinario -you as a parent will have to teach your kids - whether you want them to see nudes or not, and which nudes or when you feel it's the appropriate time in life to view them. And learn to trust your kids a little as to what you as a parent have taught them. And sure they may get into the nudes or matches - but that's part of being a parent, you learn to deal with those situations just as they will as kids. heck i remember the first time i saw a playboy and snuck over to the tracks with my new to me, girlfriend - but those arn't bad memories heck i was laughing at the pictures and had no clue what a girlfiend was - they where still carrying kudies at that age.(though in a couple years I learned other wise:)heh heh give me them kudies girl I'm sure the girls remember there first kiss or the first time they saw that thang or had a drink. I'm sure your parents at the time or at some time did not approve, did you turn out to be mass murders or rapists? Are you bad people? Well I wish everyone a happy day and or night - I have work to do. Memories....aaaaahhhhhh

Wouldn't you all agree that catagorizing would be better than 'filtering'? Kendra - if you came here and on the front page there was a list of all the catagories - Scenery - sci-fi, nudesand the sub catagories, sci-fi nudes, etc and no nude banners on the scenery sci-fi etc would that solve your issue to your satisfaction?

Why do i feel we should all be humming Onward Christien Soldeirs in the background...? Ironbear why stop there... we should catagorize the white nudes, the black nudes and the ones containing asian people as well...the members of the KKK and bigots from round the glode would certainly be more receptable to the site and be able to filter out those pics especially when there kids are around. And why stop there even we could seperate the ones with black rubber suits from the ones with white rubber suits - the good and evil thing. I sure ther are people that would appriciate that. Personally I like to see afilter for the ones with landscape in them, I only want to see ones from the city scape....where does it end folks?? I don't people ...I always thought this site was meant for artists of all kinds...and with that came the responsibility to protect the artist and free thinking. With out cencership - catagorizing sure - filtering - no. I would understand and be more receptive to an organized site which had catagories for art work but not the filtering thing. Chyrle - I'd have to refer back to Hawkfyr and say it's not what you, it's how you say it - if I have his point right. Not that I'm the most versed person in the world mind you. but I believe the issue of making sure the box was checked is a given at this point. And this has now developed into the related issues there of brought up with-in this thread. Which all corralates back to the original post. Art will always or hopefully be contravertal, at times appealing and at times disturbing. The masters tend to push the boundries of not only the media of choice but the boundries of what's socially exceptable. What your talking about with the 'Use' of the nudity button thether it's intent or not - is censorship.

I just wanted to say Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you Of all the props I've downed this is truly the prop I've been waiting for. It's perfect for a new scene I'm working on... Thankyou Mech

nice, can you pose the spin? or head?

Lol - I'm with you Ironbear - you bring the titties, I'll bring the Beer