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I made a comparision and found that both Eva and P6 Jessi subdivided share the same mesh, is this guy Chris the creator of Jessi P6? If so why don't advertise Eva as a new version of JessiP6?
If he is not, then there is a problem I guess...
Left- Eva on the right- Jessi P6

• edited to add the names of the figures in the image

How many Stones need to be thrown ?
First Apollo , now Eva ? It makes me sick .......... ok throw your Stone then , i hope the last one gets you !

Quote - I don't think you get either worst or better rendering from a changed UI.

Oh yes you could be very right here ;-) wink , its always a Point of view .
So as long as it renders better , i dont need any modern ..hem .. pink UI or shining silver with Dots .

Well if we see it from this Point :
If the UI is starting better rendering , yes then change it , it is important .
This Sentence can be read from many viewpoints ;-D

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I'll consider buying if it has significant improvements in the areas that need them most (IMO). I hope they've done some serious fixing of the Hair room.

I hope the figures don't continue the trend of ridiculously huge polygon counts and hope the new P8 features are something I need and use.

I hope that the polygon count isnt as high as on Sydney.

Maybe Smith Micro will learn and Alyson will be rigged more like Miki2.

If they want me to shell out over $100 for an upgrade to P8, they'd better have included some new (useful!) features, lots of bug fixes and speed improvements to the core app.

I'd rather have a new poser with more improvements instead of paying for figures and content I'll never use.

I am curious to see if they have changed (even improved) the User Interface.

I am hoping for more 64-bit goodness, and an accurate reference guide.

If, IF, she is the Poser 8 girl, I just might use her.

My point is, yes, they sure need to cater for the old clients.

Please, oh, please include some low to medium res figures .

An hair, lots of hair, P L E A S E.

And, everyday, wearable clothing would be nice too. .

Looking forward to it and no doubt this thing will be a 64-bit program.

Needs full 64 bit capability, and a user interface we can really use (gizmos to move things - enough with spinning dials!)

oooooo, crosses fingers, let it not be a bunch of compressed psds and not brown

Well if they are going to overhaul the interface then I MIGHT be interested in an upgrade.....

I have a long wishlist of things that I would like to see in this version and made sure to include them in the survery they had awhile ago.

How about being able to multi  select body parts and in the Material Room, surfaces??

Really needs options like this for my sort of work flow. 

What I am interested in is whether or not this will include many of the features in Poser Pro, such as HDRI rendering, background rendering, and network rendering support for at least 3 other computers... a UI overhaul with faster load time and rendering time would be ideal.

Including a fast and stable 64-bit version for Intel Macs running Leopard or greater would also be a good reason to upgrade... not the content.

we would like to see an improvment on the Render Engine .

Hoping for the best (lots of new features, global illumination, state-of-the-art render times, well, everything DAZ Studio already has...)

And if someone, we care not who, can just solve all the issues of Poser import into Vue.......

Make DAZ Studio 3 look like MS Paintbrush, and you might gain our respect.

area lights.............................

and a better fake SSS  .........................

i would like better options in the render.

I really do hope they release the full feature list at once and release the list well before the product will be released and don't play these annoying games with us.

Help it by better (and initially free) supporting - updating your own figures? ? ?

If it works better than un-patched Poser5 I'll buy it.

I do hope they include the content as a seperate install, preferably the individual zips so we can pick and choose what we want to install of it and where we want it installed to.

Tool bars would be nice to get rid of all the wasted space carried over since Poser 2 where I started.  Also a way to manage our libraries especially for those of us with multiple runtimes.  Better animation tools as well.

if there are some UI improvements then I'm there for sure.

My one wish would be to see the latest version of Poser as a fully functional 64 bit program!

I just hope it work right, and uses more than 3 gigs of memory and that they fix it to use mental ray or vray!

I realy hope they add no new features and just concentrate on fixing what they have.

Fingers crossed that Poser 8 is fully 64 bit 

I would be happy if the figures didn't have joints that looked like folded innertubes, thats my only gripe.

i hope they fixed DM shadows and they work now how they should 5 years ago.

I only ask for two things: make it a 64 bit app and do.NOT.mess.with.the.interface!

I want the option for incremental saving of files (pz3)

An' a pony!!!! I wanna pony!! Pleeeeeeeez?!? I've been really good this year, an' I reeeeeeely wanna pony!

Can I have one?

If I don't get a pony, I'm gonna hold my breath until I turn blue!

Then you'll be sorry...

:lol: :lol:

 

I agree in every Point here , without the Pony which is to purchase @ DAZ rofl

It is unflatable but smiling , as i heared the Pony is easy to handle by drag and drop .

Quote - > Quote - Never ever can be the UI so different , that i would not find my way trough it .

So thats for sure not the hottest Point here .

The real importance will be seen over time, in the weeks and months following the product**'s** release.

How many Products are coming ? In the Weeks .... and Month .. following .
So there is more coming ?
Weeks and Months .. more then one Product = Add Ons " Build Up pay Stones " ?
Like DAZ Studio got , like Uberenviroment Lights ...

Just thinking ....

No that is not what I meant.

Look, I have ideas for fantastic FREE plugins I would make for Poser, or svdl or ockham or nruddock or many other talented Python writers could make, but there is no way for us, today, to integrate with the GUI, and let you treat these as if they are a built-in part of the program.

Thank you for this Info , i am glad about , realy .
Poser always had been a complete Program in the first way . So to add a Python is fine realy fine , but i would not purchase a " Build up Poser 8 Kit " a la DAZ Studio ... i guess you know what i mean .
I know you are a Poser Master Dino ;-) , i trust in grins.

They're creating a new version of Poser.  That is all.

Hm , thought it is exciting ... thought it be nice to know some more about ....
Ok , back to my P7 and in my Material Room ......

Sometimes is reading better then writing ... maybe it takes an other 3 Year to get 40 Posts out of it ;-).

Never ever can be the UI so different , that i would not find my way trough it .
So thats for sure not the hottest Point here .

The real importance will be seen over time, in the weeks and months following the product**'s** release.

How many Products are coming ? In the Weeks .... and Month .. following .
So there is more coming ?
Weeks and Months .. more then one Product = Add Ons " Build Up pay Stones " ?
Like DAZ Studio got , like Uberenviroment Lights ...

Just thinking ....

The real importance will be seen over time, in the weeks and months following the product's release.

Does it mean we get a Poser 8 Basic and from Time to Time an "Add On Build - Up pay Pebbles " like DAZ Studio ?

He ment : start saving your Money ;-) . Its worth it *big smile * .....

Oh aha ..well as i said , i am no old Dino LOL ,... sorry i didnt know about it blush
30+ ... hm i was still .. oh well ;-D .
And to make you smile once more , i was wondering about that Dolly already .... *blush Tomato Red *

Quote - > Quote - Sure. It's all good.

I'm having fun teasing.

You (collectively) are having fun speculating.

And Steve Cooper is having fun reading this thread. He told me so today.

Yeah, apparently he's not the only one.  8^)

And the one thing everyone uses, well there's several I can think of, but most of all the Poser Library.  Dang, this is fun!  8^)

Hm , there is more then one thing ... the Lights ( would be very dark without ;-D ) , the Libraries ( would be empty without ), the Render Engine ( no renders without ) , Material Room ( biggest Toy ever and fun ) , Set Up Room ( important too ) ,
Its Poser itself i would assume ;-D ....

Quote - >> " Each sensible user would rather get DAZ Studio, except a handful old dinosaurs who have got too much used to Poser that they are incapable of changing their habits; And that's not a market share."

Oh please.

Anything else trollish you want to add to the discussion?

I'm sorry, but I cant take anything you say seriously if you're going to frame it like that. So you prefer Studio. Huzzah and hurrah for you.

Aha .. my mirror must be lying then .... "Note to myself : need a new Mirror " !

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re: "At least they've still got one customer then :-)."

No, at least 2 customers.  I have had more fun with Poser than any other software that I have ever "played" with and I have been using PCs when they only had an 8008 uP and 64K of RAM, yup, that's right, I said "K". :lol:  That was, um, about 30 years ago IIRC.

BTW - Your links don't work - for me anyway ... ? :blink:**
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Ok count me in as double , makes 4 at least LOL rofl .
No come on , now honestly ..why are we talking here .. for sure not because noone likes Poser .. huh?
Sure we like our Poser thats why we are here and we like to get it improved in Version 8 , on the same Step as others are already .
Dont we ..? ;-)

Quote - Oh, and let me make this clear, in case you read too far into my last post.

The renderer is faster. Faster enough to upgrade? Not sure - depends on what you're doing.

The renderer can do something new that's really important.

Ahhh , now we are getting on the Point big smile !
Who said it needs to be faster , it needs to be better !
So from what you wrote here carefuly , without reading any speculations in it , it could be what has to be *fat smile * !
Lets hope ... i do for sure .

Quote - As much as I love Poser, $125 is the price of a toy and you get what you pay for. You want blazing fast high quality renders? Buy Maya at $4999.  Or even Vue at $895.

Frankly, this is quite a new experience for me working on something this inexpensive. For the last 10 years, every application I've worked on had a minimum price tag of $50,000. Most of the things I've worked on are $250,000 to $1,500,000. Considering that this community whines and complains about 500 times more than my million dollar customers - well that's pretty damn amusing.

Well to say it like it is , i purchased Vue7 Infi. why shoudn`t i purchase a Poser 8 with an absolut fabulous Render Engine ? If there is a new one ;-) .... to talk about a good Price for a new great Programm is out of Discusion .....
If it is as great Renderer as ... lets say Vue or Carrara ... hey i am in the Boat for sure !
So we also got a Material Room , is it the way to be used in full capabilities ?
The Ligh Capabilities  .. oweeee ... far behind on .. hem ..1990 ...

For a great working and rendering Program there are sure Costumers who pay the Price ;-).
I dont think E_On is useing their Software all by their selfs , they got their Clientele ... now why do they got it .... LOL .