Gebe, do you work for Eon?

Wabe, you write things I never said. I appreciate that you make comments, but don't pull things out of their context. 1. I never wrote "you are all doing wrong here". That's totally out of context. I'm just asking why there are so many Poser images in the Vue gallery, is that the same like saying "you are all doing wrong here"? 2. You also said "BTW, why is the Import function a no-no?" I never said that either, again you pull things out of context. I clearly wrote in my first post (A) "Don't get me wrong, I don't think that we should be too strict when it comes to what is allowed in any specific gallery,..." and in my second post I wrote (B) "Of course there will be some Poser related stuff or something related to a different piece of software, but somewhere you need to draw the line". Tell me, does that sound like someone who thinks that everything should be pure Vue? 3. Then you write But that does not mean that we demand that the images we dont like should not be shown here. Very simple thing. Again, I never said that I didnt like the images, again you dont read what I wrote. Those images for example that I mentioned, theres nothing wrong with it, I do like them, I just think theyre not in the appropriate gallery, why is it so difficult to understand this. I like those Terragen images too, visit the forum quite often, but does that automatically mean that I love to see them in the Vue forum? If I want to buy a book about Cinema 4D, why would I like to read about Mojoworld on every page? 4. Then you write Like using images for textures. Is that a no-no too? Must be! Because not Vue only! Again, totally out of context, I never wrote anything like that and again, read what I wrote at (A) and (B). Youre telling me that Im just new. Does that automatically mean that; a) I havent been visiting this site for quite some time b) the whole gallery is just a reflection what was posted on one day You also take only Terragen as an example, when I mentioned 5 (!) other galleries and there are a lot more. Thats not fair either. The thread title is Vue gallery looking more and more like a Poser gallery and I clearly wrote in (A) and (B) that I have NOTHING against the fact that people post images that contains object coming from other software of if people adjust there Vue images with other programs. I havent been rude, but people started to make assumptions, pulled my text out of context and ignored my words on several occasions. I dont consider that a fair way of communicating and therefore I feel no need to continue the discussion about the initial topic. No hard feelings though.

"You could use Poser as a go-between" It's silly to assume that everybody has Poser or is willing to buy it to solve a problem with textures related to Rhino 3D don't you think?

"As long as a picture has been redered in Vue, it is fine to put it in the Vue Gallery." Explain me why that is, because that really doesn't make sense to me Agiel. So that means that every Bryce scene, every Poser scene, complete C4D, 3DS Max, Lightwave, XSI, Strata or whatever modeled scenes can be thrown in the Vue gallery just because they were rendered in Vue? C'mon, has the Vue gallery degraded THAT much? You made this list; "- only have primitives, plants and terrains (pure Vue) - do not have postwork (that would be cheating) - no imported object (too easy) - no alpha plane (photographs - not Vue)" Sorry Agiel, but now you go off topic. The discussion was about Poser images. You're trying to avoid the discussion by bringing up a list that has nothing to do with my question. You know exactly what I mean by "Poser" images. Just look at the following images that are on the first page of the Vue gallery; "DRAWN FROM THE WATERS", "Princes", "Lady on Bridge", "Don't give me that look" That's what I mean with "Poser" images. I also wrote "that we shouldn't be too strict". Of course there will be some Poser related stuff or something related to a different piece of software, but somewhere you need to draw the line. Having some control over the galleries takes more work, I fully understand that, but should that be the reason just not to take any control at all. What I would like to know Agiel, did you ever advice people to post in a different gallery or is it in the Vue gallery just freedom for all? Now look at the Terragen gallery. There are some exceptions in the Terragen gallery, but for the most parts it's a very "clean" gallery. If I want to look at Terragen images, then the Terragen gallery is a great place. And there are more galleries that are very focused on the program that is being used; Mojoworld, Cinema 4D, Rhino 3D, Lightwave, Carrara, etc. I guess I have to live with it for the moment, until I get more the hang of Cinema 4D, because I get the impression that Im talking to a wall here. Thanks for the replies everybody and Agiel, you're doing a great job here, it's just that I don't agree with your view on this subject, that's all.

Satfj, it's quite foolish of you to think that it's always the program that creates photorealistic objects. You can have the best tree models, but when you don't understand how to make an interesting composition and how to pay attention to contrast, lighting, color, depth, etc, then even the most realistic tree will look crappy.