Thanks for all the info, it was good to get all this feedback. My poor wrists have see way to many hours of 3D work and even more hours of World of War Crack (Craft) as of late.

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I agree krimpr I waited and haven't upgraded yet so, I'm counting down the days. 5 More Days!

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AS I have just finished a project that required video as a texture I would love to see it in Vue 5 Pro. As it is, I had to do that part in C4D and I would have preferred to finish it in Vue. I have very little problem with Vue 4 or Pro and never have.

I can't help as I'm waiting for Vue 5 Pro but I hope this isn't some new limitation on the Vue 5 line. I render most of my work larger than that, so I probably wouldn't upgrade at all. You should send this one to tech support and please let us know what you find out.

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Thanks for the replys. I realize its all a matter of preference but it never hurts to ask. I have the Wings download on my computer but havent installed it yet. Vue4 was my first 3D software and I think it spoiled me, the first day I had it I was creating things on my own. While even after 20 days with Carrara I was still clueless and thats what Im trying to avoid. I will still have to decide on TS but thanks for the help.