I think after reading the product information on the e-on site you need to buy xstream for either maya or max. I don't think it will work on both.  Hopefully this will help.

Why is Agiel moderator? I think because he enjoys the program and likes to assist others who enjoy it as well. I have had my issues with Agiel but he is man enough to respond in a mature manner and being that he gets absolutely no money for this job I respect that. Now the Members of the super secret society called A.S.S that Wabe and Djeser have I think it should be banned for sure, but not Agiel the moderator here. It is hard enough to get good help when you pay them let alone good help for free. BTW I don't have to proven anything to my wife to be able to buy things my friend perhaps you should look there first before rashly striking out against the moderator of this forum. MY VOTE: Agiel is doing a bang up job and he stays. Thanks for reading. Davy Z.

Some good advise from lingrif and dlk30341 however that is not at all the type of community I was hoping for. Letting people like Dejeser and Wabe and there 7 to 10 friends run this forum is a joke and conforming to keeping your mouth shut is not right in my eyes. You 7 to 10 people are not the majority here and yet you act like you are. The phase thing is complete BS. Yes petshoo these people get to me as well. Self righteous people make me ill. So this is just my opinion and like petshoo I doubt I will be involved here and that is a shame that a few can ruin it for the majority. Peace out.

As a new member I was called a lurker just because I have no gallery by a small group of people that seem to think they run things around here. Then I was IMed by the moderator who deleted my post and then had the gall to assume I was someone else. It does not make me want to be here when things like this happen. I am of the belief now after reading the very long thread in the poser forum that this place is not a community at all. Just a handful of people that think because they have been here a long time and get the same 8 or 9 votes by their friends that puts them in the top 20, that in some way they have the final say here. Whining about their friends that get negative posts and basically acting like primadonnas. I doubt I will be uploading any of my work here any way. So if you all want the new people to stay and not be afraid to post a message or an image why not try and be a little nicer to them is my thinking. But once again I am sure this post will be deleted for some TOS reason. Oh well. :)

Cool link thank you!!

Name calling like jealous jerk only drops you to the same level as the one you all now attack whom ever it is and I really don't care. Judging only really means you need to be in a position of judgment. I say grow up and realize this is what happens to many artists that are good. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. The fact this little group is keeping the person in question secret is funny to me. If the person is concerned then stand up and do your own judging IMO. Why let others do it for you as they may not have all the facts right. And last if you are good enough to invoke jealousy then feel honored. Judging a comment or an image based on opinions IS just that an opinion. And BTW if some thing is against the rules here then take action with the necessary people. Sure it is a shame but welcome to the real world. By voicing my opinion I run the risk of attack as well like being called a lurker because Im new. LOL

Reluctant to post on this but here goes!! I love that poster as well, so creative but I agree with DeeVee. So many here seem to be very sensitive.Point being on the internet things can be miss-understood to a very high degree. Thanks :)

How nice thank you very much.