I fear when I hear "Goths" I think "visigoths" and "ostrigoths".  Must be the mideaval recreationist in me.  This conversation has given me a completely irreverent (to both sides) image of a deathly pale Dawn in dramatic black and red make up wealding a Zweihander dressed in early period germanic armor.

@Instrument discussion: I want my piano back.

To Dawn:  I am greatly looking forward to her... but even more, I'm looking forward to her male counterpart.  

Side question for those of you who have been rigging etc. in daz.  I'm just getting into content creation mostly for my own projects, but I'd been planning on offering anything I got working well to the comunity.  I fully plan on adding Dawn and any male counterpart to my work flow.  I'm reasonably confident of my ability to figure out rigging etc. for Poser (Or at least locate assistance), but Daz Studio is a program I struggle with.  With most of the other figures I use, I probably won't bother to make suplemental versions... but with Dawn it seems like a better idea.  Where is a good place to ask for detailed help on the rigging and shader (or whatever they're called in Daz) processes and norms?  Preferably somewhere that won't mind me referencing poser /as a reference/.

I've been following this thread reasonably closely, but at 120 pages, I have likely missed quite a few good resources in the sheer volume of posts.